Nang
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Yes.
RELIGION: Man's attempt to become like God.
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Yes.
Epoisses
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Everyone has received Salvation 'in Christ'. There is still that sticky point of believing.
Nang
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Yes, to me, and in the eyes of God.
According to His revealed Word (Holy Scriptures).
Epoisses
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This is why Calvinism is abhorred by most Christians. You change the God of love into a monster.
Epoisses
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God is love and the world lies in the darkness of error.
Nang
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God is not obligated to save any sinners at all, but the fact that He sacrificed His only begotten Son to save some of us, evidences His love.
Who are you to demand that He is not a loving God, simply because He also chooses to display His justice against undeserving sinners?
Are you His judge?
Epoisses
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God is obligated to save sinners and that is why the Father sent the Son to die for the world. The elect are those who believe the good news.
Nang
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On what biblical basis do you say so?
Indeed not.
Such wrong thinking, absolutely denies and destroys the concept of Godly grace.
Epoisses
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God is obligated because God is love. 1John 4:8
As in, a bunch of random sects transfiguring America. And Roman Catholics.
Maybe you should go look at Germany and whatnot. The Reformed tradition is gigantic- it's historical Christianity you daft fool
Epoisses
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"Most Christians"
As in, a bunch of random sects transfiguring America. And Roman Catholics.
Maybe you should go look at Germany and whatnot. The Reformed tradition is gigantic
My wife's parents live in Limburg, Germany and I have visited Cologne and Frankfurt many times. Pretty much westernized these days.
Epoisses
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Reformed is nothing. Maybe a step up from a D'ist but a small one.
Nang
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God is also Just.
His attributes are equal; never one dominating or overbidding another.
And God is not "obligated" to love or save any sinners, at all. To think otherwise, reveals a lack of understanding and appreciating His saving grace, altogether.
Reformed is the reason you aren't Catholic right now. Or are you ignorant of history as well?
Epoisses
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Jesus is the savior of the world. That truth rebukes you all day and every day.
Epoisses
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I'm closer to Arminian than Calvinist.
That is not the only verse in the Bible, it is not what the scriptures intend as the message, and you cannot sit there and hide behind behind that perpetually.
Epoisses
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Because you're an unbeliever! The Samaritans said Jesus was the savior of the world and they had no vested interest in Israel. John 4:42