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You have already affirmed that Christ died for all men haven't you?
Rebuttal of the dreadful doctrine of reprobation
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You have already affirmed that Christ died for all men haven't you?
1Mind1Spirit
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Wouldn't be my opening line, no.
1Mind1Spirit
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I've affirmed alotta things........ :idea:
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And you are a very ignorant 'scholar', so called by you.
Sonnet
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I wonder why the contention if you affirm Christ died for all?
PneumaPsucheSoma
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Heretics' bogus assessments of Believers are irrelevant. Every scholar in the history of the Christian faith would agree with me and anathematize you. It's very simple.
Understand this: Faith is the key factor in putting oneself into this elect body of persons that God has chosen. It is faith which qualifies you to be a son of Abraham and heir to God’s promises.
Romans 10:12-13.
For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; the same Lord is Lord of all and bestows his riches upon all who call upon him. For, “every one who calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved.”
So faith is the distinguishing factor in who is elect and who is non-elect. It doesn’t matter whether you are Jew or Gentile. All who have faith in Christ Jesus will be saved.
Ephesians 2:8 emphasizes that this setup, this arrangement, is by God’s own choice. Ephesians 2:8 says, “For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God — not because of works, lest any man should boast.” Remember we saw that the word “this” is neuter whereas faith is feminine. So “this” doesn’t refer to the faith, this refers to this arrangement of salvation by grace through faith. That arrangement is not of your own doing; it is the gift of God. It is God’s sovereign choice to save people in this way by grace through faith. Faith is the key factor here in determining whether or not you are part of the elect, part of the predestined."
If you dont understand that then you can't even help yourself
Its about the reply that he replied to. He is well known by not to know what he is saying but babbles anyway for fun.
You made me go in circles again. I wasted my time to find no questions again. Knock it off
Thats right, that means simply*MAN is*DEAD. The Bible says that you and I are dead in trespasses and sins (Eph. 2:1-6) unless we are born again.*DEAD!!!*More than that, the man or woman who is dead in sin hates God, and his "carnal mind" is "enmity against God" (Rom. 8:7). His will is stubbornly steeled against God. This Biblical idea changes a lot of modern talk about salvation.
Consider what that means:
Can a man do good works then, if he is not a Christian who is born again? No. "Whatsoever is not of faith is sin" (Rom. 14:23).Can a man*want*to be born again and follow instructions on "how to do it?" No, for that would be like saying that a man in a grave can desire to come out of the grave, or follow instructions on how to be made alive. It would be like trying to lure him out of the grave. "It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing" (John 6:33).Can any man "accept Christ" as his personal Savior, so that he becomes saved after that? Of course not. Accepting Christ is a good work done only by a Christian. Only*AFTER*God makes a person alive, can he and will he accept Christ. "No man can come unto me,*except the Father*which hath sent me*draw him"*(John 6:44).Can you "offer salvation" to anyone? That is surely impossible. One might as well offer food to a dead man than salvation to a dead sinner (Eph.2:1-2).ONLY GOD CAN MAKE US ALIVE. AND GOD DOES THAT SOVEREIGNLY - WITHOUT OUR AID, WITHOUT OUR ASKING.From beginning to end, "Salvation is of the Lord" (Jonah 2:9). This is the faith that*we preach,*because it is Biblical, because it is the*FAITH*of our fathers, which we love, still living in our hearts, and because it gives God all the glory!
His statements are verified by scriptures. Read those as well
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That is an excellent question. Why the need to condemn those who believe He did that by their ugly words of condemnation believe they somehow will persuade anyone to their way of thinking?
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What part says that? Peter denied Jesus three times. Peter was not saved. Was Peter dead to Christ?
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Presuming much with so little understanding is always the way of a "little big man".. And you do believe yourself "B"ig. . !!
Wow ! You got pure pride and hyperboasting ! Unconditional Election means simply: God*chooses*to give some people eternal life,*without*looking for anything good in them*as a condition*for loving and saving them.
Before any man or woman is born -- in fact, before the world was made -- God decided who would go to heaven and who would not. Before they did good or bad, God chose some to be His people and rejected others.
"CONDITIONAL election" would mean that God chooses to be His those who*first love and choose Him.*But the Bible says: "You have not chosen me, I have chosen you"*John 15:16. (Please also look at*Romans 9:11-21.)*Acts 13:48*says that "as many as were ordained to eternal life believed." Only, when we speak this language is the horse placed before the cart. CONDITIONAL election puts the cart before the horse, because it says that man believes and THEN is ordained to eternal life. Read carefullyJohn 10:26*for another plain "horse before the cart" passage. Can one imagine what the*denial*of this doctrine would mean? If we remember that before we are saved, we can*do nothing good*(John 15:5;*Ephesians 2:1-6), the only conclusion is that*wecould never choose God. And never would. And never would be saved.
But God is sovereign and chooses whom He will choose. And after He chooses us, we choose Him daily. All we are and all we have is given us by God.
Again, this is the faith that we preach, because it is Biblical, because it is the faith of our fathers, living still in our hearts, and because it gives God all the glory!!!!
God tells us to ask that His will be done when He has already predetermined His decree. Why? We don't entirely know. Why? Because His ways are higher than ours. Why? Because He is the potter and we are the clay. Why? Because He is God.
Somebody is feeding him sour milk
Calvinist preaches all of the bible to unbelievers. Thats what elects do