Um, no? Cognitive problems or reading comprehesion, perhaps both, seem to be your problem here. Those who have learned WILL come, just as Jesus says.
Rebuttal of the dreadful doctrine of reprobation
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Um, no? Cognitive problems or reading comprehesion, perhaps both, seem to be your problem here. Those who have learned WILL come, just as Jesus says.
God's Truth,
That is indeed God's Truth!
I'm kind of speechless right now.
I'm going directly to.......... Drum Roll..............
Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rebuttal of the dreadful doctrine of reprobation
True,
But, Luther and Calvin are in diametrically opposing camps.
Lutheran's don't even get Luther.
He was a Gospel powerhouse that was literally going up and down stairs on his knees to chastise himself, when he recalled "the Just shall live by Faith "Sola".
Luther's writings and path were slowed by Mr. Philip M. This is seen as necessary for the time, because Luther was so full of the Grace of Jesus, he would have certainly died before his work was completed, had it not been for Philip M. keeping him in check with the times.
His views were muted by other reformers, but he would have been an absolute heretic to even Calvin (who did indeed build on and adjust Luther's teachings with addition and subtraction), if it wasn't for Luther pointing out the fine line between understanding the Law of Moses was fulfilled and the stance of Antinomians.
Luther is a foundation for the reformation, that founded his understanding on the Great Rock.
Luther and Calvin are two different theologies.
Luther's gospel was even more nimble and quick than Calvin's.
But they were merely struggling to break the Gospel free from the clutches of dictators.
And for all the discourse here, I thank them for giving their lives (some literally and some figuratively) so we could be discussing these matters today.
But, back to the point.
Christ Alone.
Scripture Alone.
And discussion about Reprobation.
I'm fairly certain that I know what side of this argument the unfettered Luther would be on, for this discussion. [emoji6]
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Um, no? Cognitive problems or reading comprehesion, perhaps both, seem to be your problem here. Those who have learned WILL come, just as Jesus says.
True,
But, Luther and Calvin are in diametrically opposing camps.
Lutheran's don't even get Luther.
He was a Gospel powerhouse that was literally going up and down stairs on his knees to chastise himself, when he recalled "the Just shall live by Faith "Sola".
Luther's writings and path were slowed by Mr. Philip M. This is seen as necessary for the time, because Luther was so full of the Grace of Jesus, he would have certainly died before his work was completed, had it not been for Philip M. keeping him in check with the times.
His views were muted by other reformers, but he would have been an absolute heretic to even Calvin (who did indeed build on and adjust Luther's teachings with addition and subtraction), if it wasn't for Luther pointing out the fine line between understanding the Law of Moses was fulfilled and the stance of Antinomians.
Luther is a foundation for the reformation, that founded his understanding on the Great Rock.
Luther and Calvin are two different theologies.
Luther's gospel was even more nimble and quick than Calvin's.
But they were merely struggling to break the Gospel free from the clutches of dictators.
And for all the discourse here, I thank them for giving their lives (some literally and some figuratively) so we could be discussing these matters today.
But, back to the point.
Christ Alone.
Scripture Alone.
And discussion about Reprobation.
I'm fairly certain that I know what side of this argument the unfettered Luther would be on, for this discussion. [emoji6]
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Um, no? Cognitive problems or reading comprehesion, perhaps both, seem to be your problem here. Those who have learned WILL come, just as Jesus says.
Colossians 3:23 Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters, 24 since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. 25 Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for their wrongs, and there is no favoritism.
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Glad you see that, but if you truly see that, how is it you then side with the Calvinists when they speak against those scriptures?
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You are wrong, for Luther and Calvin have similar beliefs, they both believe you can do nothing without God first saving you.
God does NOT save unbelievers.
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Um, no? Cognitive problems or reading comprehesion, perhaps both, seem to be your problem here. Those who have learned WILL come, just as Jesus says.
2 John 1:8 Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully.
What a powerful scripture showing that we are to work by obeying Jesus, and that those works save us for when we are done in this world, for our works follow us!
Rebuttal of the dreadful doctrine of reprobation
Seeing the voice of HIS Spirit in AMR's posts deserves respect.
The Spirit uses everything to speak.
I don't always seek peace, but when intense debate is taking place and a willingness to politely share ones views when under attack arrises, I give respect and indeed want peace to be known.
It's obvious who supports Calvinism here and who doesn't.
I tested AMR by asking if He holds Calvin's words FAR beneath Jesus, and He acknowledged that He exalts Jesus above all.
This is why I ceased attacking Calvinism, and shifted into curiosity mode.
Attacking only encourages attack in response. But a soft answer quells wrath.
This is the foundation of healthy exchanging of ideas that bares solid growth in all.
It is the desire that Iron will sharpen Iron.
AMR is investing much time into discourse here, and I want him to know he is appreciated for it.
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Seeing the voice of HIS Spirit in AMR's posts deserves respect.
The Spirit uses everything to speak.
I don't always seek peace, but when intense debate is taking place and a willingness to politely share ones views when under attack arrises, I give respect and indeed want peace to be known.
It's obvious who supports Calvinism here and who doesn't.
I tested AMR by asking if He holds Calvin's words FAR beneath Jesus, and He acknowledged that He exalts Jesus above all.
This is why I ceased attacking Calvinism, and shifted into curiosity mode.
Attacking only encourages attack in response. But a soft answer quells wrath.
This is the foundation of healthy exchanging of ideas that bares solid growth in all.
It is the desire that Iron will sharpen Iron.
AMR is investing much time into discourse here, and I want him to know he is appreciated for it.
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Tulipbee,
That is now TWO SCRIPTURES that say we receive everlasting life AS A REWARD.
Are you going to repent of your false doctrines and come to the Truth?
That is now TWO SCRIPTURES that say we receive everlasting life AS A REWARD.
Are you going to repent of your false doctrines and come to the Truth?
If we all spoke our influences of a lifetime at the same time, the room would be roaring confusion.
But if we said the name of the One that we are here to glorify and talk about;
We would all say Jesus in unison.
He is our central connection.
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Oh be quiet.
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We are not to speak against the truth, no matter how sincere a person seems.
GT,
You're a passionate zealot. Zeal is good. But when you address someone as false, it undermines them.
You don't like Lordship to belong to anyone but Jesus.
I know that Tulip Bee feels the same way.
Asking someone to repent of their search for God is never a profitable move.
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Um, no? Cognitive problems or reading comprehesion, perhaps both, seem to be your problem here. Those who have learned WILL come, just as Jesus says.
Revelation 22:12
[ Epilogue: Invitation and Warning ] “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done.
Rebuttal of the dreadful doctrine of reprobation
And, you made my compliment towards you, make me look like a donkey.
GT,
Have you ever heard the phrase, "honey catches more flies than vinegar?
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And, you made my compliment towards you, make me look like a donkey.
GT,
Have you ever heard the phrase, "honey catches more flies than vinegar?
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If you have done nothing wrong by following false doctrines because you have only done so because you were only searching for God...then what do you have to lose by repenting?
Humble yourself to God and repent for following falseness.
Obey God and He will reveal himself to you.
When I was in a false denomination, I was there because I was searching for God, and a friend found out I was in a false denomination, so he told me to repent of it. I told him why should I repent for following a false denomination when I ONLY GOT HERE because I was searching for God? He said just do it anyway. I decided to be humble instead of defensive to him, because I saw that he really thought he was doing right and I did not want to hurt his feelings. I wanted to tell him to mind his own business and to not be jealous of what I had. I wanted to tell him that he was an alcoholic and cheated on his wife and what did he know about God...but instead of saying that to him, I humbled myself and said aloud the prayer he wanted me to repeat. He said something like, "Father God in heaven, through Jesus I ask for forgiveness for following falseness..."
At that time demons came and the rest of the story is a personal testimony that I do not care to share with anyone else here.
Just know this, if you humble yourself and repent, and if demons come your way, call on Jesus to help you, but do not go back to what you repented of, no matter how confused you might be.
That's because they got that part right!
It's called Calvary.
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GT,
Do you admit that you are a sinner that sins and are only saved by Jesus Christ standing in you place of judgment?
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GT,
The WHOLE point is that only ONE did right! That is how the narrow gate is defined. He is the gate!
To try to pass our dust off as good is to try to enter heaven as a thief and a robber!
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Just look at how evil you are. You heard part of a person's testimony and you tried to deflect from it.
You are in Satan's snare.