Rape victims

[Rusha]

They never are mentioned. Because you know it is firmly believed by some that only the woman is showing wrong behavior and the party fratters couldn't possibility be doing anything wrong. So why even mention them and their behavior.

Of course ... it will never be admitted that some see men as having justification to act this way.

 

[Tambora]

Cool,

Nothing cool about the horrid thing you said.

while you're here tell them how man does not deserve death for his sins.

Because it's not true.

 

[glorydaz]

Nothing cool about the horrid thing you said.

Because it's not true.

I didn't say anything horrid. Just because you say so doesn't make it so.

 

[glorydaz]

We know.
It was just the link that was messed up.
The post is still there.

So go ahead and tell me it isn't wrong to strip at a party, and I'll know exactly where you're coming from.

 

[bybee]

So go ahead and tell me it isn't wrong to strip at a party, and I'll know exactly where you're coming from.

You labor under an illusion that anyone here gives half-a-rat's-hind-end what you think?

 

[glorydaz]

You labor under an illusion that anyone here gives half-a-rat's-hind-end what you think?

I don't laugh at any of your illusions, Bybee. Nor will I allow myself to laugh at your "question"...if that's what it is. It sorta starts off as a statement, but you added that question mark. :think:

 

[glorydaz]

They never are mentioned. Because you know it is firmly believed by some that only the woman is showing wrong behavior and the party fratters couldn't possibility be doing anything wrong. So why even mention them and their behavior.

You gals just keep looking sillier by the minute. :rotfl:

 

[bybee]

Nothing cool about the horrid thing you said.

Because it's not true.

Apparently God thinks we are worth saving? He did die on the cross for us...just for us! So, we are saved. Our sins have been atoned for.
Not once did our Lord and Savior say Go away you are too stupid and too vulgar to merit salvation!
Not only are foolish women savable but also the rapist is savable.
And I know that our dear Lord holds victims in His loving arms and helps us to heal.

 

[Ktoyou]

You gals just keep looking sillier by the minute. :rotfl:

They are your friends. I get it, so here is what I would do; let everyone chill out on this, do not allow yourself to get too emotional, as it is catching! Best to let it go and see the similarities, rather than to acerbate the bitter feelings of yourself, and all those who you cared about for so long.

This is all I have to say here on open forums.

 

[glorydaz]

Apparently God thinks we are worth saving? He did die on the cross for us...just for us! So, we are saved. Our sins have been atoned for.
Not once did our Lord and Savior say Go away you are too stupid and too vulgar to merit salvation!
Not only are foolish women savable but also the rapist is savable.
And I know that our dear Lord holds victims in His loving arms and helps us to heal.

Yes, everyone is savable. And the point of your rant has ZERO to do with anything. Unless you're claiming we DESERVE salvation. Unless you're saying we don't DESERVE death. We DESERVE NOTHING. So, your rabbit trail is just that and nothing more. Not even a good try.

 

[glorydaz]

They are your friends. I get it, so here is what I would do; let everyone chill out on this, do not allow yourself to get too emotional, as it is catching! Best to let it go and see the similarities, rather than to acerbate the bitter feelings of yourself, and all those who you cared about for so long.

This is all I have to say here on open forums.

Have you directed that to me alone? It appears so, but I'm thinking you are fairer than that.

But, no, I don't consider them my friends. There is only one in that group I considered a friend. The choice has not been mine, but it's been made, nonetheless. So now this is just an internet forum...no more no less, and really, that is all it ever should have been.

 

[CabinetMaker]

so what does a woman who acts like a whore, strips at frat parties, gives lap dances, drinks to excess and take drugs deserve for her slutty behavior if not the consequences of those behaviors?

She deserves somebody who loves and cares for her enough to help her see the risk she has exposed herself to and will help her get out of that lifestyle before she suffers worse consequences. She deserves God's love and compassion from those of us who claim to have Jesus in our hearts.

 

[bybee]

Yes, everyone is savable. And the point of your rant has ZERO to do with anything. Unless you're claiming we DESERVE salvation. Unless you're saying we don't DESERVE death. We DESERVE NOTHING. So, your rabbit trail is just that and nothing more. Not even a good try.

I do try. It was not a rant.

 

[bybee]

She deserves somebody who loves and cares for her enough to help her see the risk she has exposed herself to and will help her get out of that lifestyle before she suffers worse consequences. She deserves God's love and compassion from those of us who claim to have Jesus in our hearts.

Seems to me a prostitute helped the Israelite's win a major battle? And this came right from God.

 

[Tambora]

Have you directed that to me alone? It appears so, but I'm thinking you are fairer than that.

But, no, I don't consider them my friends. There is only one in that group I considered a friend. The choice has not been mine, but it's been made, nonetheless. So now this is just an internet forum...no more no less, and really, that is all it ever should have been.

Looks like past tense.
Is that what you meant to say?

 

[glorydaz]

She deserves somebody who loves and cares for her enough to help her see the risk she has exposed herself to and will help her get out of that lifestyle before she suffers worse consequences. She deserves God's love and compassion from those of us who claim to have Jesus in our hearts.

Good post, and that's another side of the word "deserve". But, she also deserves some consequences that will cause her to see that certain behavior is dangerous. Some people can just be told, while others require something more dire. We often learn more from pain than we do anything else. We learn to be careful. You can't always love someone into good behavior....encouragement does not always work.

I've known women who didn't learn a thing until they had their children take away....even then some won't learn...they refuse to change. Sometimes consequences are not pleasant, but they always serve some kind of lesson. To deny their value is a shame.

 

[intojoy]

So, no doesn't always mean no. Under what conditions does no mean yes aside from rape?

I'm just going by the "3 months hooking up, climbing into bed with him" etc.

That sounds like they'd had carnal knowledge regularly.

To say no would require not climbing in his bed, not being alone in an intimate setting etc.

 

[glorydaz]

Looks like past tense.
Is that what you meant to say?

Past, and I hope present and future as well.


But, from that group, you were my only real friend.

 

[Ktoyou]

Have you directed that to me alone? It appears so, but I'm thinking you are fairer than that.

But, no, I don't consider them my friends. There is only one in that group I considered a friend. The choice has not been mine, but it's been made, nonetheless. So now this is just an internet forum...no more no less, and really, that is all it ever should have been.

No, ( and it is not bad, it is my feeling that some are made upset by pests) not at you alone, and not more-so at you, rather at anyone who is made to feel stressed by the doings of those who intend to create harm to members, and, in this case, it is not any of the women.

I'm your friend and I feel most of the women here like you as well.

 

[intojoy]

Here's the issue.

Some of the men here have been "friended" by women they'd have wanted more from only to see them enter relationships with other less than desirable men (womanizers) and they're bitter that's all.

Don't know bout the female detractors..

Don't hate me cause I'm pretty