question for MADIsts.

[musterion]

The Bible says that Peter was in Antioch at the same time that Paul was there. See Galatians 2:11.

Pay attention to what I wrote. The Bible shows that none of the 12 ever left Israel in order to carry out the so-called "great commission" unto the whole world, as Christ said they would do.

He sends the greetings of "she who is in Babylon," when visiting the Christian congregation there. He was obviously in Babylon. See I Peter 5:13.

No, it is not obvious. You're guessing that's where he was. And maybe he was...but it's a guess. Acts is a big book...28 chapters. Peter disappears after ch. 15.

John may not have been preaching on Patmos,

Now you're making stuff up.

Eusebius... Irenaeus...

When you have to quote wolves, you've already lost.

John did say he was on the island of Patmos, as I said (Revelation 1:9).

Not to preach the so-called "great commission."

The Great Commission was accomplished by the twelve.

No it wasn't.

They started it off, went throughout the land. Peter and John are shown, from the Bible, to have left Israel.

No. Christ said they'd go through all of Israel first, which would be converted, then unto the Gentile world. That did not happen.

Why do you want to argue over that?

I'm not arguing. I'm pointing out that you're wrong. The "great commission" never went forth as Christ said it would, as there is no record of the 12 preaching to any Gentile outside of Israel.

This dispensation of grace won't last forever. You need to stop trusting in what the Watchtower says you must do for God. You need to put your trust in what Christ has done for you, as His death, burial and resurrection are your only hope of forgiveness and justification before God.

 

[patrick jane]

Pay attention to what I wrote. The Bible shows that none of the 12 ever left Israel in order to carry out the so-called "great commission" unto the whole world, as Christ said they would do.



No, it is not obvious. You're guessing that's where he was. And maybe he was...but it's a guess. Acts is a big book...28 chapters. Peter disappears after ch. 15.



Now you're making stuff up.



When you have to quote wolves, you've already lost.



Not to preach the so-called "great commission."



No it wasn't.



No. Christ said they'd go through all of Israel first, which would be converted, then unto the Gentile world. That did not happen.



I'm not arguing. I'm pointing out that you're wrong. The "great commission" never went forth as Christ said it would, as there is no record of the 12 preaching to any Gentile outside of Israel.

This dispensation of grace won't last forever. You need to stop trusting in what the Watchtower says you must do for God. You need to put your trust in what Christ has done for you, as His death, burial and resurrection are your only hope of forgiveness and justification before God.

good post

 

[KingdomRose]

There is one sin that would not be forgiven in their life or the next. Paul committed it, and is in heaven.

So says someone who doesn't know what he is talking about.

 

[KingdomRose]

Pay attention to what I wrote. The Bible shows that none of the 12 ever left Israel in order to carry out the so-called "great commission" unto the whole world, as Christ said they would do.



No, it is not obvious. You're guessing that's where he was. And maybe he was...but it's a guess. Acts is a big book...28 chapters. Peter disappears after ch. 15.



Now you're making stuff up.



When you have to quote wolves, you've already lost.



Not to preach the so-called "great commission."



No it wasn't.



No. Christ said they'd go through all of Israel first, which would be converted, then unto the Gentile world. That did not happen.



I'm not arguing. I'm pointing out that you're wrong. The "great commission" never went forth as Christ said it would, as there is no record of the 12 preaching to any Gentile outside of Israel.

This dispensation of grace won't last forever. You need to stop trusting in what the Watchtower says you must do for God. You need to put your trust in what Christ has done for you, as His death, burial and resurrection are your only hope of forgiveness and justification before God.

I'm not wrong. I showed you in the scriptures where Peter and John went BEYOND Israel and carried on their ministry.

BTW, Christ never said that all of Israel would be converted! You're making stuff up.

:dizzy:

 

[Totton Linnet]

Not quite. The Apostle John said that there is a sin that warrents death, and also a sin that does not warrent death. (IJohn 5:16,17) The sin that Jesus' sacrifice covers is the sin that does not warrent death....the sin we inherited, for which we are really not responsible. The sin that warrents death is the WILLFUL, DELIBERATE PRACTICE of evil.

All sin is the wilful deliberate act of disobedience, Christ died for US, to save US from sin. you are not saved so you need to first get saved before you can understand these things. We are saved, we speak what we know.

Death does not equate to damnation.

 

[musterion]

I'm not wrong. I showed you in the scriptures where Peter and John went BEYOND Israel and carried on their ministry.

Right...John banished and imprisoned on a rock...Peter's public hypocrisy rebuked and put in his place by Paul.

BTW, Christ never said that all of Israel would be converted! You're making stuff up.

:dizzy:

Again you miss the point. He told them to go to and through all Israel first, THEN to the rest of the world. It didn't happen.

Now dump the Watchtower and believe the Gospel and be saved.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

So says someone who doesn't know what he is talking about.

You're automatically disqualified from being correct because you're a JW cultist.

 

[musterion]

True, that.

 

[heir]

The good things pertaining to the gospel of the kingdom could not be accessed through the terms and conditions of the old covenant. Everything pertaining the gospel of the kingdom had to be accessed by faith, and although Jesus was sent to the Jewish people, gentiles could also receive from Jesus if they put a faith demand on him.
It was the apostles job to take the gospel of the kingdom to the Samaritans and gentiles (Mat 24:14).

Matthew 10:5-6 KJV, Matthew 10:23 KJV

 

[heir]

Meshak, why are you interested in things pertaining to "MAD?" You've already proclaimed Paul as an anti-Christ?

She's playing the role of Elymas.

 

[heir]

You are making unnecessary and unfair judgments.

I don't think so.

Why not stop condemning and just reason about the scriptures?

I do every day.

Meshak is NOT wrong in saying that Jesus' words are for THE WHOLE WORLD and not just the Jews.

No, they weren't in time past.

John 4:22 KJV, Matthew 15:22-24 KJV, Romans 15:8 KJV

 

[heir]

Hey, pay attention! Meshak has said, and I say also, that no one is saved until the end, according to Jesus' own words, which you do not heed. "The one who ENDURES TO THE END, he will be saved." (Matthew 24:13, NASB) Real simple.

We do not have to endure to the end. That was and will be Israel's message, not ours. Today, those who have trusted the Lord believing the gospel of Christ ARE SAVED!

1 Corinthians 1:18 KJV, 1 Corinthians 15:2 KJV, Ephesians 2:5 KJV, Ephesians 2:8 KJV

 

[heir]

So don't harrangue Meshak about saying she's not "saved." No one has salvation until they reach the end of either their own lives or the end of this system of things. We must CONTINUE to follow Christ, steadfastly, and not stop.

Liar.

 

[heir]

Because they don't believe anything.

you :troll:

 

[heir]

Salvation is by faith. Eternal life begins when we accept Jesus as lord.

John 5:24 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

No gospel of Christ, no salvation for you.

 

[heir]

Sinners are justified by their sins being washed away, as you know, but maybe Nick really believes God justifies sins.

We are justified by the faith of Jesus Christ and God raising Him from the dead!

Galatians 2:16 KJV, Romans 4:25 KJV

 

[heir]

Yeah you're beautiful, too.

What this Paul worshiper thinks, is that Jesus took the penalty for all sin, so that people should no longer have a guilty conscience when they do sin.
That is nothing but gnostic trash. And you and your theology are a disgrace.

We are not Paul worshippers. We know and believe from the scriptures that the wages of sin is death and that the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord (Romans 6:23 KJV).

Everyone should see that you are in this thread to provoke members of the BoC and of this site.

 

[God's Truth]

We are justified by the faith of Jesus Christ and God raising Him from the dead!

Galatians 2:16 KJV, Romans 4:25 KJV

We do not have to sacrifice an animal that is what that scripture means.

 

[heir]

You're the one with 16000 posts vs 1500 of mine. And I'm laying on the bed fighting a flu bug.

Why are you sick? Mark 16:17-18 KJV

 

[patrick jane]

We do not have to sacrifice an animal that is what that scripture means.

You cling to that a lot, animal sacrifices as the only works. You're wrong as usual