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I tell you, it is as if they share the same spirits.
Proof that Paul didn't preach a different gospel than Peter
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I tell you, it is as if they share the same spirits.
do you have the gift of speaking in tongues ?
and yes, why do folks like you remain false in all they write about -
Jerry Shugart
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You know better than that!
One of the meanings of the Greek word translated "generation" is "family" and it will now be demonstrated that "family" is the correct translation at Matthew 24:34.
By the Lord Jesus' own admission the "times" and "seasons" have been put in the Father's power (Acts 1:7; Mt.24:36). It is not as if He had been given a vision in regard to the time when all these things would be fulfilled. Instead, He was the Prophet described here:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him" (Deut.18:18).
The Lord Jesus had no special knowledge in regard to when the things would happen so He certainly would not be pointing out any specific generation of men who would see the signs of which He spoke.
Therefore, the correct translation of the following passage is as follows:
"So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This family shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled" (Mt.24:33-34).
Of course the "family" refers to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob..
The Lord Jesus' sermon foretold of the "great tribulation," a time when Israel will be attacked unmercifully in an attempt to destroy the whole family of the Israelites. Therefore it would not be unusual for the Lord Jesus to assure them that they will not be wiped out and that they will continue to exist. Therefore, He told them that the family would still be in existence when He returned to the earth.
In fact, this is not the first time that such assurance had been given to the family of the Israelites, as witnessed by these words:
"Thus says the LORD, Who gives the sun for light by day And the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night, Who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar; The LORD of hosts is His name: If this fixed order departs From before Me, declares the LORD, Then the offspring of Israel also will cease from being a nation before Me forever" (Jer.31:35-36).
According to the Lord as long as the sun and moon remain in the sky the nation of Israel will remain "being a nation" before Him. So there is nothing odd about the Lord Jesus telling the Israelites that "this family shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled," especially with the great tribulation in view.
Your ideas are based on the assumption that the Lord Jesus would know the time when the great tribulation would happen despite the fact that there is absolutely nothing in the Bible which supports that false idea.
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What makes you think she isn't?
Why is it that you Dispies say salvation is by faith and faith alone, but then go around telling everyone who has faith in Christ Jesus that they aren't saved?
Ben Masada
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You didn't even read the text in II Cor. 11:4-6, 13 did you? Of course not! Deep down the truth hurts my friend.
So, lay you 2 Peter 3, so that I can address it. All you are doing is posting sound bytes out of their passage's overall scope and context.
You want to continue in that, well, we will only go around in circles about whether the ear I am holding, or the foot the elephant has on your skull, is the elephant
As for JW, I've been trolling through some old Mid-Acts posts and find the guy has a very high level of understanding of the issues - more than many.
Pain that he has been, notwithstanding...
The ole "generation doesn't really mean generation" argument.
Don't you Dispies ever get tired trying to make Matt 24:34 say something it doesn't say?
Jesus was smarter than you are making Him out to be.
Jesus knew the temple was going to be destroyed before the generation of His contemporaries all passed away.
Again, you're wrong.
(Rev 21:10) And he said to me, “Do not seal the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand.
If Jesus didn't know (your claim), then why did He tell John the time was at hand?
I read it.
Paul and Peter preached the one true gospel.
In 2 Cor 11 Paul is warning the Corinthians about false apostles preaching a false gospel.
This has nothing to do with the one true gospel Paul, Peter, and the rest of the Apostles preached.
I deny the New Covenant is in place today. Am I lost?
Tet: I have no spine, so I cannot answer that.
Because the time had been "at hand" just as "the kingdom" had been "at hand."
By the way, what is your understanding of why Christ is seen standing at the end of Acts 7?
How many times do I have to tell you it's in the first two posts of this thread?
Made up:
"as it is now revealed"-puts your "everyone knew the mystery" "theory to rest.
Its the first time you have - take the sty out of your eye tel -tel, lol
(Rev 1:1) The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
According to Dispensationalism, "things which must shortly come to pass" has taken over 1,900 years, and still counting.
SaulToPaul 2
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Did you read how she said she became saved?
Do you agree that this is how salvation happens?
God's Truth
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I want them to answer the question so much.
Just explain it to him again. Make it as easy as can be. Ask the question again.
SaulToPaul 2
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Until you accept the Covenant of Slow Down What's Your Hurry, you are lost.
God's Truth
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How do you think I say I was saved?