Pops refutes the biblical concept of the Trinity

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Squeaky said:
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I wonder some times how many times the bible must say something before some people will believe it.
THE ONLY GOD AND FATHER OF JESUS CHRIST And US

II Jn 1:3
3 Grace, mercy, and peace will be with you from God the Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
Rev 1:6
6 and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
Rom 15:5-6
5 Now may the God of patience and comfort grant you to be like-minded toward one another, according to Christ Jesus,
6 that you may with one mind and one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Cor 1:2-3
2 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,
2 Cor 11:31
31 The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is blessed forever, knows that I am not lying.
Gal 1:3-5
3 Grace to you and peace from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ,
4 who gave Himself for our sins, that He might deliver us from this present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father,
5 to whom be glory forever and ever. Amen.
Eph 1:3-4
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,
4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love,
Eph 4:6
6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Phil 4:19-20
19 And my God shall supply all your need according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus.
20 Now to our God and Father be glory forever and ever. Amen.
Col 1:3-5
3 We give thanks to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,
4 since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and of your love for all the saints;
5 because of the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, of which you heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel,
John 17:1-3
1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
2 "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.
3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
John 20:17
17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.'"
Rev 3:12-13
12 "He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. And I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.
13 "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."'
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XXXX The God and Father of Jesus Christ. Jesus tells us that He and we have the very same God and Father. And that the Father is the only true God. God is the highest spiritual title of authority over the universe. LORD is the highest spiritual title over the earth. Now after Jesus proved Himself to God the Father, the Father gave Jesus the title of Lord. Not LORD but Lord. So Jesus is the highest spiritual authority over the earth now. But still right under The LORD God the Father.

1 Cor 3:23
23 And you are Christ's, and Christ is God's.
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John 20:17
17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.'"
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Acts 2:22
22 "Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know--
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Eph 1:17
17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him,
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Ya can't fix stupid they say. They do not wish to shake their canoe.
 
Caino

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There is more than one God, but they are all One in spirit, in allegiance to the First Source and Center. The original, eternal Trinity facilitated the Fathers escape from the inherent fetters of personality absolutism.
 
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Caino said:
There is more than one God, but they are all One in spirit, in allegiance to the First Source and Center. The original, eternal Trinity facilitated the Fathers escape from the inherent fetters of personality absolutism.
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People like you that get away with posting such heresies is driving people away from this site.
 
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People like you that get away with posting such heresies is driving people away from this site.
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Jesus was killed by closed minded religious people, many prophets of truth before him as well.

I’ve simply stated the truth, the problem isn’t the truth.
 
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Caino said:
Jesus was killed by closed minded religious people, many prophets of truth before him as well.

I’ve simply stated the truth, the problem isn’t the truth.
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It was by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of Elohim that delivered the Eternal Son unto death.

Get the facts right before you start typing.
 
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If the Eternal Son has not entered into death and Hades then He has not conquered either for His people.

Don't be so stupid.
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False premise to begin with. Death or translation is normal on our world. Adam and Eve incarnate on a previously fallen earth. The crafty beast had already fallen and managed to outflank Eve over time. It was Adam and Eve who lost the use of “the tree of life” as a consequence of their disobedience. They were then consigned to the ascending path of man.

Jesus neither took away sin nor death, he made the way of salvation from both, in his original gospel, more clear. Jesus wasn’t the center of the original gospel, the Father and doing his will was the focus.

After Jesus returned to heaven, well intentioned followers created a religion ABOUT Jesus that replaced the religion OF Jesus.

The man made atonement doctrine is a philosophical assault against the freewillness of God. It presupposes that God was/is incapable of forgiveness until he saw his blameless Son dyeing on the cross.
 
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Caino said:
False premise to begin with. Death or translation is normal on our world. Adam and Eve incarnate on a previously fallen earth. The crafty beast had already fallen and managed to outflank Eve over time. It was Adam and Eve who lost the use of “the tree of life” as a consequence of their disobedience. They were then consigned to the ascending path of man.

Jesus neither took away sin nor death, he made the way of salvation from both, in his original gospel, more clear. Jesus wasn’t the center of the original gospel, the Father and doing his will was the focus.

After Jesus returned to heaven, well intentioned followers created a religion ABOUT Jesus that replaced the religion OF Jesus.

The man made atonement doctrine is a philosophical assault against the freewillness of God. It presupposes that God was/is incapable of forgiveness until he saw his blameless Son dyeing on the cross.
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"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of Elohim: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned".
 
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"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of Elohim: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned".
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The spiritual man can dig up the fossils in the layers of the ancient earth and realize that the same kind of holy men who killed Jesus wrote self important, exaggerated stories about themselves in an age of ignorance and got a lot wrong! Heck, even the natural man can see the inconsistencies of the Jews nationalist, religio-political document known as Genesis
 
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Caino said:
The spiritual man can dig up the fossils in the layers of the ancient earth and realize that the same kind of holy men who killed Jesus wrote self important, exaggerated stories about themselves in an age of ignorance and got a lot wrong! Heck, even the natural man can see the inconsistencies of the Jews nationalist, religio-political document known as Genesis
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So says the self-important know-it-all named Caino
 
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The spiritual man can dig up the fossils in the layers of the ancient earth and realize that the same kind of holy men who killed Jesus wrote self important, exaggerated stories about themselves in an age of ignorance and got a lot wrong! Heck, even the natural man can see the inconsistencies of the Jews nationalist, religio-political document known as Genesis
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"Heck, even the natural man can see".Quoted.

The blind cannot see and perceive. You are judicially blinded.

"'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving..."
 
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"Heck, even the natural man can see".Quoted.

The blind cannot see and perceive. You are judicially blinded.

"'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving..."
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Even the blind heard the original gospel of Jesus. Today the pride of Christians are unable to "see" that the gospel changed after Jesus left.

Maybe you should accuse yourself?????
 
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