If that were true, which it is not. Then salvation is the result of what man does.
Paul: "If Christ be not raised your faith is in vain and you are still in your sins"
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If that were true, which it is not. Then salvation is the result of what man does.
According to God, not mans means not what man does. AMR already explained it to you and also listed tons of your frequent continuous repetitive lies. What do you want us to do? Do you want us to follow your lies? Why are you begging us to fail?
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There is no such thing as all humans being totally depraved.
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Your false teachers did not understand about people who were already God's when Jesus was on earth will be drawn to Jesus because they recognize what Jesus was saying was God's Truth.
John 6:45 Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me.
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What poison are you feeding people, and yourself? You are a half sibling to the Calvinists. You preach not obey and Calvinists teach can't obey.
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All of you are not on the side of truth because all of you preach against DOING SOMETHING. You both fight about which of you obey the least.
John 18:37 Everyone on the side of truth listens to me."
It is NEVER EVER truth to preach no obedience, as you all teach.
Faith aloners teach faith and nothing/no obedience; and, Calvinists teach no faith and no obedience.
Is is truth to teach no obedience to Jesus or you are condemned? Common sense eludes you all.
Ya know what, you're a pain in the neck pal.
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Just listen to what Pate, a faith aloner and tulipbee a Calvinist argue about...
"My faith is not a work/obedience."
"Yes it is...I do nothing, not believe and not obey in any way."
You all do not see how nuts it is.
"My faith is not a work/obedience."
"Yes it is...I do nothing, not believe and not obey in any way."
You all do not see how nuts it is.
That's an ignorant conclusion.
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Ridiculous Calvinistic false doctrine. Silly stuff that only the naive place their trust in.
Calvinist ingredients:
1 cup of Biblical ignorance.
1 cup of misunderstanding of Scripture.
1 cup of changing the character and intent of the God of the Bible.
1/2 cup of arrogance.
1'2 cup of snobbery.
Mix together for 30 seconds and pour into the nearest sink.
1 cup of Biblical ignorance.
1 cup of misunderstanding of Scripture.
1 cup of changing the character and intent of the God of the Bible.
1/2 cup of arrogance.
1'2 cup of snobbery.
Mix together for 30 seconds and pour into the nearest sink.
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Calvinists have to invent special terms and spam post like AMR to make their doctrine palatable. Jesus spoke the most profound truth in simple language. Calvinists reject that Christ is the savior of the world and are self-condemned. The end of the road for Calvinist heresy is B57. That's what Calvinism looks like if followed to it's logical conclusion which most are to afraid to do. B57 is the true picture of Calvinism.
Totally sinners
Who = elects
Both of you can't obey
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Not totally depraved so as not to be able to hear and obey. For hearing is how we receive faith.
That is the Word of God.
According to God's own pleasure , not mans means not man's obedience. You teach man earns salvation though works.
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They were elected because they had faith with obedience.
Your faith is fake