keypurr
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There is only one created express or exact image of God. The son mentioned in Heb 1.
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Pagan Mary Worship
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Has anyone ever told you your a theological smart Elllic?
I understand your use of time and timelessness, and the Order you see things in.
Gotta do things the hard way, don't you?
Daqq too, for that matter.
You both are alright.
Grace to you Keypurr
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If God could create an express image of himself why did the express image need to learn obedience?
Why didn't the Father train his child to be obedient? You know the proverb train up a child...
Pollice Verso
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I'm not Catholic and don't agree with all Catholic doxis or praxis. But I think it's important to be honest and accurate about what Catholics believe and do not believe. They do not worship idols or Mary. Disagree with what they actually believe all you like, but I think it's unfair to stereotype and set up straw men arguments against them.
Here, here ,here!
When Rome went from being pagan to Christian under Constantine, they had to find a replacement for the great mother of paganism. It was not until the time of Constantine that anyone began to look at Mary as a goddess. Since Mary was the mother of Jesus, she was the most logical person to replace the pagan mother goddess. The pagans could continue their prayers and devotion, only they would call her Mary. The pagans worshiped the mother more than her son and this is exactly what the Roman Catholicism does. True Christianity teaches that Jesus Christ, alone is to be worshiped. Jesus never advocated at the idea of Mary worship nor did any of the apostles. Worshiping the mother goddess along with her child took place centuries before Jesus Christ was ever born in many different parts of the world. In 431 A.D. Mary worship became an official doctrine of the church in at the Council of Ephesus.
When Rome went from being pagan to Christian under Constantine, they had to find a replacement for the great mother of paganism. It was not until the time of Constantine that anyone began to look at Mary as a goddess. Since Mary was the mother of Jesus, she was the most logical person to replace the pagan mother goddess. The pagans could continue their prayers and devotion, only they would call her Mary. The pagans worshiped the mother more than her son and this is exactly what the Roman Catholicism does. True Christianity teaches that Jesus Christ, alone is to be worshiped. Jesus never advocated at the idea of Mary worship nor did any of the apostles. Worshiping the mother goddess along with her child took place centuries before Jesus Christ was ever born in many different parts of the world. In 431 A.D. Mary worship became an official doctrine of the church in at the Council of Ephesus.
Jesus came to teach and save mankind, not learn anything! It is the paganism in men who insist on human magical powers, like turning one substance into another, which gave rise to Mary worship.
keypurr
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Thank you, I like to think things out. But to be honest I am not a highly educated person. I am just a guy who loves God enough to try to figure him out. Daqq is much more advanced in scripture than most.Has anyone ever told you your a theological smart Elllic?
I understand your use of time and timelessness, and the Order you see things in.
Gotta do things the hard way, don't you?
Daqq too, for that matter.
You both are alright.
Grace to you Keypurr
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We all struggle to learn truth. Sometimes God let's us see things that we have overlooked for years. The words EXPRESS IMAGE just woke me up one day about four years ago, it caused me to see other verses as they were meant to be seen. But I am only special to my God and my family, I do feel that God has blessed me with some idea as to who he and his son are.
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Blasphemy-
Pollice Verso
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Well, the Bible does say she is "full of grace." Does it describe anyone else that way?
Pollice Verso
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True, but Gabriel describes Mary this way before the Holy Spirit indwelled people - this was before Pentecost, remember. In fact, it was before Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirit.
Did Jesus learn obedience through the things he suffered? (Hebrews 5:8)
How is learning obedience categorized as blasphemy?
Ok, no more of these long link posts. Give a short intro, or better yet, high points and and link.
On the other hard, stating it was already said , here and here will not do. If you will not paraphrase your past statement, do not respond.
The passage does not mean, at first, Jesus did not know and had to learn it. You are finding the correct exegesis of scripture
Jamie,
Are you GT's second account?
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Cruciform
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Once again, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Score yet another Straw Man Fallacy (you can Google it) for Ktoyou. :doh:
Cruciform
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QUESTION: When the apostles raised people from the dead, were they using "magical powers"---yes, or no?
Cruciform
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You failed to answer the question. Here, I'll post it again:
QUESTION: When the apostles raised people from the dead, were they using "magical powers"---yes, or no?