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What does God do in the Book of Revelation at the Battle of Megiddo?
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Exactly, what does God do!

I don't see the book of revelation like any of you do here! God's people fight with a spiritual sword not a natural one. Your only seeing the natural and not the spiritual!
 
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marhig said:
Exactly, what does God do!

I don't see the book of revelation like any of you do here! God's people fight with a spiritual sword not a natural one. Your only seeing the natural and not the spiritual!
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God slaughters millions of people at the battle of Megiddo. Why? Because they waged war against him.
 
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Except for Jericho the rest were in Gods hands. We are not to kill. Go read the new testament Truster Jesus was nothing like you!

Go and read what Jesus taught

Matthew 5

Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift. Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.

And further down the same chapter

Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
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Go and read revelation....and tremble, because the Yah Shua of your imagination is nothing like Him.
 
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marhig said:
There is no good in murdering anyone, and to drop a nuclear bomb on people is not of God!

God's people are here to bring the good news to others and bring the love of God and life of Christ to all we meet, not kill one another!
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How many more innocent women and children would have died had we not used those two nuclear bombs on Japan? Should we number it in the thousands? Millions? Billions? How much longer would the war have lasted had we not used them? Weeks? Months? Years? Decades? Centuries?

Go read up on Operation Downfall.
 
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Go and read revelation....and tremble, because the Yah Shua of your imagination is nothing like Him.
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I know what Christ is like he is full of love, and I've read revelation and I don't see it as you do. And as I've said, all of revelation is done at God's hand, we are not to kill anyone!
 
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I know what Christ is like he is full of love, and I've read revelation and I don't see it as you do. And as I've said, all of revelation is done at God's hand, we are not to kill anyone!
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Marhig, was Abraham a righteous man?

Was he wrong for going out and rescuing Lot?

And it came to pass in the days of Amraphel king of Shinar, Arioch king of Ellasar, Chedorlaomer king of Elam, and Tidal king of nations,that they made war with Bera king of Sodom, Birsha king of Gomorrah, Shinab king of Admah, Shemeber king of Zeboiim, and the king of Bela (that is, Zoar).All these joined together in the Valley of Siddim (that is, the Salt Sea).Twelve years they served Chedorlaomer, and in the thirteenth year they rebelled.In the fourteenth year Chedorlaomer and the kings that were with him came and attacked the Rephaim in Ashteroth Karnaim, the Zuzim in Ham, the Emim in Shaveh Kiriathaim,and the Horites in their mountain of Seir, as far as El Paran, which is by the wilderness.Then they turned back and came to En Mishpat (that is, Kadesh), and attacked all the country of the Amalekites, and also the Amorites who dwelt in Hazezon Tamar.And the king of Sodom, the king of Gomorrah, the king of Admah, the king of Zeboiim, and the king of Bela (that is, Zoar) went out and joined together in battle in the Valley of Siddimagainst Chedorlaomer king of Elam, Tidal king of nations, Amraphel king of Shinar, and Arioch king of Ellasar—four kings against five.Now the Valley of Siddim was full of asphalt pits; and the kings of Sodom and Gomorrah fled; some fell there, and the remainder fled to the mountains.Then they took all the goods of Sodom and Gomorrah, and all their provisions, and went their way.They also took Lot, Abram’s brother’s son who dwelt in Sodom, and his goods, and departed.Then one who had escaped came and told Abram the Hebrew, for he dwelt by the terebinth trees of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol and brother of Aner; and they were allies with Abram.Now when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed his three hundred and eighteen trained servants who were born in his own house, and went in pursuit as far as Dan.He divided his forces against them by night, and he and his servants attacked them and pursued them as far as Hobah, which is north of Damascus.So he brought back all the goods, and also brought back his brother Lot and his goods, as well as the women and the people.And the king of Sodom went out to meet him at the Valley of Shaveh (that is, the King’s Valley), after his return from the defeat of Chedorlaomer and the kings who were with him. - Genesis 14:1-17 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis14:1-17&version=NKJV
 
marhig

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JudgeRightly said:
How many more innocent women and children would have died had we not used those two nuclear bombs on Japan? Should we number it in the thousands? Millions? Billions? How much longer would the war have lasted had we not used them? Weeks? Months? Years? Decades? Centuries?

Go read up on Operation Downfall.
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JR the world will go to war, Jesus said there will be wars and rumours of wars, these are of the world. Those born of God are not to put the hand to killing another.

God has nothing to do with man's wars!
 
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marhig said:
JR the world will go to war, Jesus said there will be wars and rumours of wars, these are of the world. Those born of God are not to put the hand to killing another.

God has nothing to do with man's wars!
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He will take part in the war to end all wars. What don't you get about that?
 
marhig

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Marhig, was Abraham a righteous man?

Was he wrong for going out and rescuing Lot?

And it came to pass in the days of Amraphel king of Shinar, Arioch king of Ellasar, Chedorlaomer king of Elam, and Tidal king of nations,that they made war with Bera king of Sodom, Birsha king of Gomorrah, Shinab king of Admah, Shemeber king of Zeboiim, and the king of Bela (that is, Zoar).All these joined together in the Valley of Siddim (that is, the Salt Sea).Twelve years they served Chedorlaomer, and in the thirteenth year they rebelled.In the fourteenth year Chedorlaomer and the kings that were with him came and attacked the Rephaim in Ashteroth Karnaim, the Zuzim in Ham, the Emim in Shaveh Kiriathaim,and the Horites in their mountain of Seir, as far as El Paran, which is by the wilderness.Then they turned back and came to En Mishpat (that is, Kadesh), and attacked all the country of the Amalekites, and also the Amorites who dwelt in Hazezon Tamar.And the king of Sodom, the king of Gomorrah, the king of Admah, the king of Zeboiim, and the king of Bela (that is, Zoar) went out and joined together in battle in the Valley of Siddimagainst Chedorlaomer king of Elam, Tidal king of nations, Amraphel king of Shinar, and Arioch king of Ellasar—four kings against five.Now the Valley of Siddim was full of asphalt pits; and the kings of Sodom and Gomorrah fled; some fell there, and the remainder fled to the mountains.Then they took all the goods of Sodom and Gomorrah, and all their provisions, and went their way.They also took Lot, Abram’s brother’s son who dwelt in Sodom, and his goods, and departed.Then one who had escaped came and told Abram the Hebrew, for he dwelt by the terebinth trees of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol and brother of Aner; and they were allies with Abram.Now when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed his three hundred and eighteen trained servants who were born in his own house, and went in pursuit as far as Dan.He divided his forces against them by night, and he and his servants attacked them and pursued them as far as Hobah, which is north of Damascus.So he brought back all the goods, and also brought back his brother Lot and his goods, as well as the women and the people.And the king of Sodom went out to meet him at the Valley of Shaveh (that is, the King’s Valley), after his return from the defeat of Chedorlaomer and the kings who were with him. - Genesis 14:1-17 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis14:1-17&version=NKJV
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You keep bringing up the old testament, if Jesus was like you, he would have helped them stone the woman caught in adultery!
 
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marhig said:
Jesus taught us to love one another, not to kill one another
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His Name is Jealous and His love is first and foremostly directed at Himself and His Father's glory. You and your kind try to deny Him that glory while giving it to Satan and by him to mankind.
 
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