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Jesus is God the Father MADE VISIBLE.
Only Y-H-W-H is God, besides Him there is no god!
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WRONG! and NOT IN THE BIBLE!
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I gave you the scriptures.
There is only one God and He is the Father...that is scripture.
God is invisible...that is scripture.
Jesus is the image/body of the invisible God...that is scripture.
Jesus is the first born...that is scripture.
Jesus is the First and the Last...that is scripture.
God made the body of Jesus Christ and then spoke through that body...that is scripture.
Jesus gave up that body and came to earth in a flesh body...that is scripture.
Jesus went back to heaven and received the same body he had before coming to earth...that is scripture.
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Right Divider,
Do you believe the scriptures say God the Father is Fire?
Do you believe the scriptures say God the Father is Fire?
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Scriptures that you completely misunderstand, confuse, twist, etc. etc.
There is one God: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. That is scripture!
In His essence, yes. Jesus did NOT BECOME the SON. He has ALWAYS BEEN THE SON.
Nonsense, Jesus is the ETERNAL SON!
The term "first born" there refers to His PREEMINENCE!
Yes, that refers to His DEITY!
God speaks WITHOUT a body.
That is NOT scripture. That is your perverse imagination.
That is NOT scripture. That is your perverse imagination.
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Okay. HOWEVER, Jesus was NOT YET known as the Son…only as the Father in the Old Testament. Jesus the Son was a MYSTERY. Agree? Jesus is God the Father in the Old Testament. Agree?
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Jesus was not flesh before coming to earth.
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That is right.
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That is right. However, God speaks to us with a body.
Then who was this?
Exodus 33:19-23 King James Version (KJV)
19 And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy.
20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
21 And the Lord said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:
22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:
23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.
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So Jesus did not give up anything when he came to earth?!!!!
Now that was ignorant.
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Jesus the Son was kept a mystery.
God is invisible.
Jesus is that God made visible.
God is Spirit.
Spirits are invisible, yet still can be seen as a ghost can be seen.
So you believe this is a Christopheny, Jesus revealed in the Old Testament?
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Tell me this, do you believe that was Jesus speaking in the Old Testament?
I believe in Christophenies. I can't say for sure that this is one so if you could shed some light on this it would be appreciated.
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Would you first explain what a Christopheny is and give me a scripture reference?
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Tell me this, do you believe that was Jesus speaking in the Old Testament?