On Rape

[Angel4Truth]

In such a wide sense as to be meaningless.


Someone steals your credit card number online. It's your fault for having a credit card!

Someone breaks into my house while I'm at work. It's my fault because it couldn't happen unless I had a house!

Nancy Kerigan was asking for her leg to get bludgeoned. She had some nerve being good at ice skating. Her fault!


Every victim of every crime? Get real.

Which is the kind of thinking that leads to things like this:

California: Male prisoners who call themselves women will be sent to women’s prisons

And this:

District 211 has 30 days to allow Palatine transgender student locker room use (meaning the public schools now have to allow male students who claim transgender, into the girls locker rooms including showers)

So when one of the female prisoners or one of the middle school students gets raped - does only the rapist bear responsibility for this asinine policy?

 

[ok doser]

Nope. That's not the OP.

here's the question from the OP:

Question - is rape, in the US, pervasive and normalized ?

I'm thinking about starting my own thread though.

you go girlfriend!

 

[ok doser]

You didn't confuse me. You started out confused and you've stayed confused and now you're trying to project your confusion onto me. Not even a good try, Into Self. :chuckle:

now i'm confused :dizzy:

 

[Cedarbay]

Did you ever stop to consider what made those crimes more likely to occur now than in the past. Step one. Did you ever think of any ways in which you could change the culture that caused the increase? Step two. Did you ever take any conscious action based on what you knew you could do? Step three.

What would your ideal culture look like?

How many generations back shall we go to find a more civilized society?

How about this?

One, quiet, Midwestern couple remain married to each other unto death. They have several children whom they raise in the Christian faith. They serve their church, their family and their neighbors. They volunteer at a local center that helps pregnant women. They write a few letters to the editor about the need for funding for these centers. They pray daily for an end to abortion because they have been told that prayer is the most powerful tool against evil.

Are they doing enough?

 

[glorydaz]

have you stood by watching as the crime rate has soared without acting against it?

Around here we put up targets and fire off a few rounds every day or so. And we have big mean dogs patrolling the fence line. :thumb:

 

[Tambora]

or do you want to answer this simple hypothetical?

a father allows his children to be babysat by a known pedophile. The children are molested. is the pedophile responsible for his actions? of course does the father bear any responsibility for putting the children at risk?

Ooooooooo.
The first problem is that a KNOWN pedophile was back on the streets to begin with.
Should have been a death sentence, and the father would have never had to worry about them.


I agree with you, ok doser.
Perverts should be publicly shamed and punished to the max.
The punishment should be so severe that anyone willing to take that risk better be willing to give their life.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Perverts should be publicly shamed and punished to the max.

The punishment should be so severe that anyone willing to take that risk better be willing to give their life.

:thumb:

 

[glorydaz]

A dog pile? Hardly. :chuckle:

Now see, if sod was a liberal, you'd be telling him to man up. He doesn't need babying.

Not true, Anna. If he was whining, I'd be telling him to man up.

What I saw was a bunch of whiners invading his thread. He's simply trying to get the whiners to answer his questions instead of pitching fits. Nor is he in need of babying. That's one thing I can say about Res. He can take it as well as he dishes it out.

 

[ok doser]

Not true, Anna. If he was whining, I'd be telling him to man up.

What I saw was a bunch of whiners invading his thread. He's simply trying to get the whiners to answer his questions instead of pitching fits. Nor is he in need of babying. That's one thing I can say about Res. He can take it as well as he dishes it out.

i'm just surprised the rest of the tard-brigade wasn't here - anna must feel let down that zoo and artie didn't join in

 

[glorydaz]

now i'm confused :dizzy:

Good, I call it my beat around the bush and then whack 'em in the back of the head move.

 

[chrysostom]

i'm just surprised the rest of the tard-brigade wasn't here - anna must feel let down that zoo and artie didn't join in

don't forget town

 

[ok doser]

don't forget town

that would be out of line

 

[chrysostom]

Good, I call it my beat around the bush and then whack 'em in the back of the head move.

don't use that word

just say jeb

 

[glorydaz]

What would your ideal culture look like?

How many generations back shall we go to find a more civilized society?

How about this?

One, quiet, Midwestern couple remain married to each other unto death. They have several children whom they raise in the Christian faith. They serve their church, their family and their neighbors. They volunteer at a local center that helps pregnant women. They write a few letters to the editor about the need for funding for these centers. They pray daily for an end to abortion because they have been told that prayer is the most powerful tool against evil.

Are they doing enough?

They are doing exactly what they should be doing....and not going on a guilt trip about what they haven't done. :thumb:

 

[Tambora]

What would your ideal culture look like?

How many generations back shall we go to find a more civilized society?

How about this?

One, quiet, Midwestern couple remain married to each other unto death. They have several children whom they raise in the Christian faith. They serve their church, their family and their neighbors. They volunteer at a local center that helps pregnant women. They write a few letters to the editor about the need for funding for these centers. They pray daily for an end to abortion because they have been told that prayer is the most powerful tool against evil.

Are they doing enough?

No, not if that's all they are doing.
They are too one-sided.

Praising good, but keeping silent about evil is not doing enough.

 

[annabenedetti]

Not true, Anna. If he was whining, I'd be telling him to man up.

What I saw was a bunch of whiners invading his thread. He's simply trying to get the whiners to answer his questions instead of pitching fits. Nor is he in need of babying. That's one thing I can say about Res. He can take it as well as he dishes it out.

No he can't or he wouldn't have made so many reports in the woodshed.

You saw whiners because that's the only filter you use when you read a viewpoint that's not coming from a conservative. I understand that, just pointing it out. The same way you told me that liberals can't help the way they are. So he can have this thread. Maybe he'll feel better now.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Which is the kind of thinking that leads to things like this:

California: Male prisoners who call themselves women will be sent to women’s prisons

And this:

District 211 has 30 days to allow Palatine transgender student locker room use (meaning the public schools now have to allow male students who claim transgender, into the girls locker rooms including showers)

So when one of the female prisoners or one of the middle school students gets raped - does only the rapist bear responsibility for this asinine policy?

Anyone?

 

[chrysostom]

No he can't or he wouldn't have made so many reports in the woodshed.

that makes him a whiner

 

[ok doser]

Maybe he'll feel better now.

i'd feel better if you weren't so afraid of answering this simple question:

a father allows his children to be babysat by a known pedophile. The children are molested. is the pedophile responsible for his actions? of course does the father bear any responsibility for putting the children at risk?

that makes him a whiner

that's not faaaaaiiiirrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!! :baby:

 

[Cedarbay]

No, not if that's all they are doing.
They are too one-sided.

Praising good, but keeping silent about evil is not doing enough.

This family has saved the lives of countless pre-born while counseling at the life care center. Their children follow in their footsteps. They leave a legacy of obedience and faithfulness to the Gospel.