ECT No grace came through Paul.
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"Sorry" you reject the Lord Jesus Christ, and the gospel of Christ, and assert that there is just one piece of good news in the book, thus "arguing" that your saint Judas preached the good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4, which pleases your father the devil, and your "spiritual" brother Judas.
The disciples of Christ at the first, preached the need for the peoples repentance for the Kingdom of God was near, and they healed the sick and cast out devils.
Nothing like that has occurred to John W yet.
That message was only the first part of the whole gospel of Christ, which first part was detailed in the OT with the delivering of Israel out of Egypt and there not being one person sick among them.
However the whole gospel is taught in the believers entering the Kingdom of God and living under Gods care with all sinners cast out, firstly by removing the sinners from among Gods people during the wilderness journey.(now for most)
John W has never ventured out of Egypt and is one of the oppressors of Gods people in Egypt under the authority of a Pharoah (satan) who never knew (only knew of) Joseph (Christ)
LA
i have been. you're losing. i'm seeing both arguments
Misdirection, deceit, change the subject, babble, spam irrelevancy.....Slick,real slick...Just like your father , the devil, the slithering serpent.
I'm still on to your con job, Christ rejector, wolf-ette, as you reject the Lord Jesus Christ, and the gospel of Christ, and assert that there is just one piece of good news in the book, thus "arguing" that your saint Judas preached the good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, which pleases your father the devil, and your "spiritual" brother Judas.
Judas preached the same as did Jesus--
Mar 1:14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
Mar 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
. Mat 10:1 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
Mat 10:2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;
Mat 10:3 Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus;
Mat 10:4 Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.
Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Mat 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
There is only one gospel.
Paul explained the nuts and bolts of it.
Men of God always ought to have known Christ would die as a sacrifice for the sins of His people, and many did throughout history since the shedding of blood and clothing of Adam and the offering up of Isaac.
Luk 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
Luk 24:26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
Luk 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
You are full of demons John W.
LA
heir
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ought to have known, but didn't!
1 Corinthians 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
1 Corinthians 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
1 Corinthians 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
heir
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You cannot show that Judas or the Lord in His earthly ministry preached 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV. That's why it looks so ridiculous for you to argue that they did.
LA Laughingstock
heir
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Is that all you've got, sweetheart?
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That is just dumb. Where do you find this "Paul is the Jewish judge teaching gentiles" in the scripture?
Paul certainly didn't "forget the law" but preached "the end of the law for righteousness" and "NOT UNDER THE LAW".
Rom 10:1-4 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. (2) For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. (3) For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. (4) For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Rom 6:14-15 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. (15) What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
According to Paul, you are either under law or under grace. If you're under law, you'll be condemned by it. If you're under grace, you'll receive mercy.Rom 6:14-15 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. (15) What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
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So, is the whole gospel of Christ Genesis-Revelation?
"Judas preached the same as did Jesus--"-child of the devil
The Lord Jesus Christ, whom you, in disdain, call "Jesus," never preached the good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, nor did the 12, including your saint Judas, and you can't show that they did, wicked one.
Continued misdirection, deceit, change the subject, babble, spam irrelevancy.....Slick,real slick...Just like your father , the devil, the slithering serpent.
I'm still on to your con job, Christ rejector, wolf-ette, as you reject the Lord Jesus Christ, and the gospel of Christ, and assert that there is just one piece of good news in the book, thus "arguing" that your saint Judas preached the good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, which pleases your father the devil, and your "spiritual" brother Judas.
"There is only one gospel."-Judas, Jr.
Satanic=there is only one piece of good news, in the bible.
Made up-fabricated.
Christ rejector.
The princes of this world were never the faithful saints of the OT.
1Co 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
The OT Temple worship was full of instructions on the need for the washing away of sin, of sins, and the work of the great High Priest yet to come.
The faithful priests of the OT explained the meanings of all the sacrifices.
God did not let the people think that the sacrifices themselves were for sin , but that they pointed to Him (and His) who was to come.
Rom 9:31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
Rom 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
Rom 9:33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
LA
If you had the capability to understand what I have written then you would see that the gospel the disciples preached were part and parcel of the whole one gospel of Christ, all of which would be made clear enough by the actual event of Christs death and resurrection which spoke to them far louder than words and which the 3000 had foremost in their minds when they asked "what shall we do".
Which mockers have never done.
LA
"Judas preached the same as did Jesus--"-child of the devil
The Lord Jesus Christ, whom you, in disdain, call "Jesus," never preached the good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, nor did the 12, including your saint Judas, and you can't show that they did, wicked one.
Show us, chapter and verse, Christ rejector, where the Lord Jesus Christ, the 12, including Judas, during the earthly ministry, at a time all of them were preaching the good news of the kingdom, "the gospel of the kingdom," ever preached:
"I/Christ is goingto die for your/our sins....be raised again for your/our justification...Believe this good news to be saved......"
Go ahead-chapter and verse.
You cannot, and will not. Peter twice atempted to prevent the Master's death, the very death that was part of the good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, and that reconciled him. The death, burial, resurrection, was hid from the 12(and satan, and his minions), until after it happened. They initially did not believe that he had risen.
Go ahead, Christ rejector. Show us.
You won't. Watch the punt, emotional diatribe to ensue-no scripture.
Wicked poser.
I do not owe John W anything.
If John wants to keep his demons then the Lord will not cast them out either.
LA
Better to not be so angry Gros.
Get back on your medication and calm down.
LA
Peter and the other Apostles were taught the gospel by the risen Christ well before Paul came on the scene, who had to obey the same gospel as they all did.
But you have not.
LA