SaulToPaul 2
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Better reread the ordinances in the chapter.
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Better reread the ordinances in the chapter.
SaulToPaul 2
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Written off and spiritualized
elohiym
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I wouldn't dispute that. The author may have only meant the Lord in that passage. :idunno:
But when we read the passage in light of the words of Jesus and Paul, what the author of Hebrews is saying necessarily takes on a deeper meaning.
Nang
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You are the one who writes things off, just out of spiritual laziness. You obviously do not hunger and thirst or care to bother studying, and comparing scripture with all scripture, in order to learn the depths of God's revelation.
:sigh:
SaulToPaul 2
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Why doesn't Jer 31 mean what it says?
SaulToPaul 2
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The Book, yes
Your SOF and commentaries, no
The context of Jer 31 is the New Covenant and this rebuilding is after the new covenant is in place.
You dont believe it.
You reject the teachings of Romans-Philemon.
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SaulToPaul 2
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When did the ordinances of Jer 31 cease?
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No, the "old man" is not the testator. That is something that is completely unsupported by scripture. Something false doesn't become true just because you keep repeating it.
The revelation of the FULL meaning behind Christ's death, burial and resurrection was not revealed until it began to revealed by God to Paul in the Mid-Acts time-frame.
No, you are mistaken. But thanks anyway.
1Co 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
How did Paul follow Christ? Not as a Jew under the Law as the twelve had done, but as the Risen and Glorified Lord Jesus Christ.
When did Jesus ever tell the twelve that they were not under the law, but under grace? Romans 6:14-15
Nang
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Indeed it does . . .
It is necessary to establish Jesus Christ as Mediator (in death) and First Born (in resurrection) as being the CAUSE that His seed may be blessed EFFECTUALLY by dying to the bondage of the Law of sin and death, in Him, and resurrecting to everlasting life, in Him.
Paul likens it to being freed to remarry upon the death of a spouse. . . Romans 7:1-6
It is a wonderful order of truths to be observed and learn from and apply to our own hearts and souls.
Nang
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When did the Old Covenant become obsolete, and the New Covenant take effect?
SaulToPaul 2
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Nang
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Are you reading the thread? Are you paying attention to my little conversation with Elo?
Our discussion pertains to Jeremiah 31:36-40 (although unintentional) and the transition that occurs in a soul when freed from the Old and transferred into the New.
SaulToPaul 2
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When did the sun and moon depart?
Nang
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These ordinances (which are natural laws as well as formal Law) will surely cease, when the new heavens are established (II Peter 10-13) . . as surely as the New Covenant replaced the Old when sinners were freed by the grace of God from bondage to the Mosaic Law.
There are contrasts made in this passage between earthly seed and spiritual seed; between Old Covenant and New Covenant; between works and grace; between prophecy being fulfilled temporally and realized eternally.
Comparing each portion of this scripture, with other scripture, is what is correctly called "rightly dividing" the word of God. It is called exegesis and seeking full truth from all such passages.
You are reading this prophet literally and on the surface only, and not seeking or delving into the full truths contained therein.
It would help if you had a good teacher or Elder to oversee your spiritual well-being and growth. :sigh:
Isaiah 45:25 KJV
In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.
Nag's satanic replacement "theology:" Shove it, God the Father, and your Christ. You are done with Israel. They are cast away. Here is the bird. The Roman Catholic Organization, A.D. 70-ists/Preterists, The Church of Christ, and the serpent taught me that.
Isaiah 46:13 KJV
I bring near my righteousness; it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not tarry: and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.
Nag'satanic replacement "theology:" Shove it, God the Father, and your Christ. You are done with Israel. They are cast away. Here is the bird. The Roman Catholic Organization, A.D. 70-ists/Preterists, The Church of Christ, and the serpent taught me that.
Romans 9:4 KJV
Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
Nag's satanic replacement "theology:" Shove it, God the Father, and your Christ. You are done with Israel. They are cast away, and will not be adopted, will not have glory, do not have any covenants, will not serve you in the future as a kingdom of priests on earth, and have no promises. Here is the bird. The Roman Catholic Organization, A.D. 70-ists/Preterists, The Church of Christ, and the serpent taught me that.
Here is how Romans 9:4 "should read:"
Who are Israelites; to whom use to pertaineth the adoption, and use to the pertaineth the glory, and use to pertaineth the covenants, and use to pertaineth the giving of the law, and use to pertaineth the service of God, and use to pertaineth the promises; but not anymore, as you have cast them away....
Jer 33 KJV
25 Thus saith the Lord; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;
26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.
Nag's satanic replacement "theology:" Shove it, God the Father, and your Christ. You are done with Israel. They are cast away, and will not be adopted, will not have glory, do not have any covenants, will not serve you in the future as a kingdom of priests on earth, and have no promises. Here is the bird. The Roman Catholic Organization, A.D. 70-ists/Preterists, The Church of Christ, and the serpent taught me that.
Romans 11:2 KJV
1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,
Nag's satanic replacement "theology:" Shove it, God the Father, and your Christ. You are done with Israel. They are cast away, and will not be adopted, will not have glory, do not have any covenants, will not serve you in the future as a kingdom of priests on earth, and have no promises. Here is the bird. The Roman Catholic Organization, A.D. 70-ists/Preterists, The Church of Christ, and the serpent taught me that.
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Is 61 KJV
6 But ye shall be named the Priests of the Lord: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.Zech. 8 KJV
22 Yea, many people and strong nations shall come to seek the Lord of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before the Lord.
23 Thus saith the Lord of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.
Numbers 23:9 KJV
For from the top of the rocks I see him, and from the hills I behold him: lo, the people shall dwell alone, and shall not be reckoned among the nations.
ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations,even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew
vs.
the people shall dwell alone, and shall not be reckoned among the nations.
What else does Nag want to "prove," brother? The Buffalo facing the wrong way, on a coin?
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SaulToPaul 2
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How can you say there is no Israel left, then?
I think the problem is just mistaken exegesis. Christ died for them BUT...it's the but that transforms what I think should be an expression of abundance into necessity and a gift into a subscription.
SaulToPaul 2
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Why does delving into the "full truths" have to mean the complete opposite of the what the literal says?