The Berean
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A4T, actually millenniala are people born from about 1981-82 through about 1997.
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Millennials having less sex than any generation before
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I pray that your daughter will eventually find a man that she falls deeply in love with and together they enjoy God's institution of marriage like you did with your late husband and I do with my wife.
ClimateSanity
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You quoted two people who are making points totally outside what your trying to push.
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Yes, I quoted two secular humanists, but my point is this:
If indeed millennials are having less sex, it's not because they believe that out of wedlock sex is immoral, it's for other reasons (sexual confusion, terrified of STD's/pregnancy, etc.).
Nik42 explained it well in this post:
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ation-before&p=4963124&viewfull=1#post4963124
Who's to say those methods are not one of God's "mysterious" means....you?
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nikolai_42
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Fear of God and fear of consequences are categorically NOT the same thing. God's "end" is not simply to keep people from engaging in dangerous behaviors (physically speaking) but to change people spiritually. Just because someone avoids sexual activity doesn't mean their morals are good, nor does it mean that they are seeking some higher good - they just don't want to get stung. They can at least see past their own desires...but not much. Certainly not enough to see God's design for human sexuality (which is central to marriage). Otherwise, they would simply stop extra-marital and illicit sex and start getting married (biblically) and enjoying that union for all it's worth. Then one might be able to say that there is at least a recognition of the Divine order.
EDIT : How many of those millennials would say they abstain "because God said we should"?
Maybe that's the reason for less sex. Parents being around makes sex awkward.
lain:
And who are you to make the distinction?
The way i understand it, thats generation x - it depends on who you ask though really. Look it up - the dates are all over the map.
nikolai_42
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If you answer the question I added in the EDIT portion, there's a starting point for discussion. Unless you want to do away with all distinctions (God and NOT God...right and NOT right), this isn't just a question about what you call something or someone. When someone fears God, they turn from sin (Exodus 20:20, Ecclesiastes 8:12 and Jeremiah 2:19 as examples). Not that they are perfect - not a one of us is - but there is an attitude towards sin that one has who fears God that is absent from one who does not fear God.
Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the Lord: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.
By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the Lord men depart from evil.
Proverbs 16:5-6
On the other hand, when they fear consequences, they simply try to avoid them - not necessarily the act (or even thought) that is at issue.
Jesus said sin begins in the mind. Show me someone who is afraid of the consequences of sex today - but not one who recognizes God - and I will show you someone unashamed of all the things they think about that are sinful (and lead to sin being realized). The one who fears God does not approach sin that way (indeed, the one afraid only of consequences is not even likely to call it sin to begin with).
If you assume that the generation which came of age most recently has been hit harder by the culture war upon the family and the entire heterosexual relationship, as well as the toxins in the food, water and air and the estrogen mimickers, then it would make sense that this is the generation whose heterosexual relationship was most diminished, both psychologically and physically.
Yet "Cohabitation and out of wedlock sex produces less sex than a society dominated by monogamous relationships."
While the culture war upon the heterosexual relationship came out of the Marxist Left, the feminist movement and the lesbian and homosexual movements, that war against the heterosexual relationship took a few years to develop after about 1960-1975 or so.
Yet "Cohabitation and out of wedlock sex produces less sex than a society dominated by monogamous relationships."
While the culture war upon the heterosexual relationship came out of the Marxist Left, the feminist movement and the lesbian and homosexual movements, that war against the heterosexual relationship took a few years to develop after about 1960-1975 or so.
Yes, so I was before baby boomer, one child may be a baby boomer and the three others are generation X. My GCs are then millennials.
Note; MY OLDEST WAS BORN 63, AND WAS ON THE FOOTBALL TEAM, NEVER A HIPPIE TYPE! MY DAUGHTER, BORN 65 WAS ALSO WELL ADJUSTED. MY THIRD CHILD, WAS ON TOL A FEW MONTHS, BUT DID NOT GET ALONG, ALTHOUGH SHE IS VERY CHRISTIAN, WHILE MY YOUNGEST CHILD, BORN 70 HAD PROBLEMS IN HIGH SCHOOL, IS MORE LIKE THOSE WHO COME HERE AS ANTAGONISTS AND IS A SYSTEMS ANALYST. WE HAD SOME PROBLEMS WHEN HE WAS A TEENAGER. I THINK LIFE WAS HARDER ON KIDS GROWING UP IN THE 70S.
NONE OF MY GRANDCHILDREN AND MOVED BY FAITH AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHY THIS IS? CULTURE IS THREE GENERATIONS DEEP.
There were two phases of Baby Boomers, the early Boomers, born from about 1946 to 1956, and the later Boomers born from about 1957 to 1964. Mostly the older Baby Boomers were children of the World War II Generation and mostly the younger Baby Boomer are children of the Korean War Generation age group, though not nearly as many men of the Korean War age group were in that war, The two parent generations are more alike than they are like either Baby Boomer group. The younger Boomers are more different than the two parent generations.
Social scientists who have studied social and cultural trends and public opinion, like psychologist Daniel Yankelovich, have been interested in the change in personality traits between those born before about 1940 and the Baby Boomers. Remember that the Baby Boomers were called the Me Generation. That a large difference exists between the Baby Boomers and their children, and those older generations born before about 1940 is not just a theory.
Yankelovitch wrote The new morality: a profile of American youth in the 70's, 1974.
He wrote New rules, searching for self-fulfillment in a world turned upside down, 1981.
Historian Christopher Lasch wrote The Culture of Narcissism: American Life In An Age of Diminishing Expectations, 1978. Both social scientists offer evidence of a fulfillment of II Timothy 3: 1-4, though they do not get into Biblical prophecy. And talking about a fulfillment of II Timothy 3: 1-4 may be theologically incorrect in many churches.
Yankelovitch wrote The new morality: a profile of American youth in the 70's, 1974.
He wrote New rules, searching for self-fulfillment in a world turned upside down, 1981.
Historian Christopher Lasch wrote The Culture of Narcissism: American Life In An Age of Diminishing Expectations, 1978. Both social scientists offer evidence of a fulfillment of II Timothy 3: 1-4, though they do not get into Biblical prophecy. And talking about a fulfillment of II Timothy 3: 1-4 may be theologically incorrect in many churches.