Maricopa county ballot audit begins today

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marke

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Rusha said:
Biden is exactly opposite of that who preceded him. Calm, empathetic, CHRISTIAN man who is *faithful* to his wife, family and loves his country.

Unlike former guy, he is mentally fit. As the legitimate leader of the US, I will continue to pray for him.

Boredom, insofar as Biden, means normality and calm.
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I am always amazed at the wide range of opinions over the mental agility of old people with dementia, over the ability of politicians to go good for America from one favorite party over another, over whether or not Russians really hacked the DNC computers even though CrowdStrike said they could find no proof the computers were hacked by anyone, and so forth.
 
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marke

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Arthur Brain said:
Yes, he's lucky if there's half a dozen in attendance. This is lame Jefferson. I guess there were only 'small gatherings' celebrating his election win as well, right? You do also realize that crowd attendance isn't a signifier for candidate support as well, right? Clinton had bigger ones than Trump back in 2016...and that was before Covid also.
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Creative editing and photo-shopping may have made Hillary seem to have bigger crowds on TV and in print, but she was hardly the candidate with the largest campaign rally attendances.
 
annabenedetti

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Derf said:
Yes, exactly.
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Highest turnout in 120 years, current population over 330 million... what did you expect?

Derf said:
And Trump elicited enthusiasm from his supporters. So his part made sense. Biden elicited complete boredom from his supporters.
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Sorry, you simply don't have the wherewithal to know what his supporters are/were thinking.

Your argument comes down to "Biden got more votes than Trump, therefore Biden's votes are fake and besides I think he's boring and because I think he's boring all Biden's supporters think he's boring too so no way he got that many votes."
 
annabenedetti

annabenedetti

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Arthur Brain said:
Yes, he's lucky if there's half a dozen in attendance. This is lame Jefferson. I guess there were only 'small gatherings' celebrating his election win as well, right? You do also realize that crowd attendance isn't a signifier for candidate support as well, right? Clinton had bigger ones than Trump back in 2016...and that was before Covid also.
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Trump was campaigning in smaller and smaller venues and ignoring Covid recommendations but they couldn't hide the empty seats or the overflow stage they didn't need and ended up dismantling. Biden's were held remotely or with Covid recommendations which would of course mean smaller crowds.

Jefferson won't be able to recognize this though. He's a QAnon believer.
 
Arthur Brain

Arthur Brain

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marke said:
What causes someone to go from believing there was fraud to believing there was no fraud? I don't know about those with problems of ignorance, bias, or changing political motivations, but I can also myself go from believing there was fraud to believing there was no fraud if democrats ever encourage hundreds of solid trustworthy investigations into alleged democrat voter fraud and those investigations provide irrefutable proof that no fraud was committed.
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Oh, there'll doubtless be political gain for Mccarthy to do such a turn, after all, he's not going to get any help with the current administration on the score. It would be rather stupid of him to maintain baseless fraud allegations where it's probably dawned on him by now that they're going nowhere.
 
Arthur Brain

Arthur Brain

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marke said:
I cannot give you in one post the hundreds of proofs of democrat voter fraud in elections over the last 100 years that I have on file, so let me just start with one, and then I can post over and over again for maybe five or six hundred times until I give you everything I have.

https://www.rnla.org/vote_fraud_likely_gone_on_here_for_years_in_alabama - An Alabama grand jury indicted the girlfriend of Dothan commissioner Amos Newsome on 23 counts of vote fraud in the campaign to re-elect Newsome last August. After absentee ballots favored Newsome by a 119-5 margin, his opponent filed a complaint, because Newsome won by only 14 votes. Prompted by the wide discrepancy, the county sheriff conducted a thorough investigation over several weeks, interviewing more than 100 witnesses.
The alleged vote fraud scheme includes two additional women besides Newsom’s girlfriend. The first woman is charged with 20 counts of vote fraud, the second is charged with 10 counts.
Sheriff Andy Hughes says that, “voter fraud has likely gone on here for years, usually in the same districts.”
The three women are charged under a state statute that criminalizes changing absentee ballot votes of another, voting more than once by absentee ballot in the same election, voting on behalf of another, and soliciting illegal absentee voting. Furthermore, “Any person who willfully aids any person unlawfully to vote an absentee ballot, any person who knowingly and unlawfully votes an absentee ballot, and any voter who votes both an absentee and a regular ballot at any election shall be similarly punished.”
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Well, that's not an unbiased source at all then is it? Do you always get your "news" and "research" from sites with such a heavy confirmation bias? Otherwise, this goes nowhere near the amount of substantial proof required to support your posit in any way.
 
Arthur Brain

Arthur Brain

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marke said:
Trump was experiencing tens of thousands of supporters at his campaign rallies while Biden was lucky to get a few hundred. It does not take a rocket scientist to understand those facts.
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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to recognize constant hyperbole and ignorance either. I'm sure in snapshot Trump would look as though he had the bigger crowds but that isn't taking into consideration other factors. Covid for starters. Biden wasn't interested in having massive turnouts and placed emphasis on safety precautions, ya know, like the responsible thing to do. Trump's events were superspreaders and even then there were plenty of empty seats.

You should also be aware that crowd size is in no way an indicator of candidate popularity in itself as well, right? If not, here's some help:

fivethirtyeight.com

Don’t Let Crowd Sizes Mislead You

Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s campaign has said she has drawn crowds of up to 15,000. Meanwhile, former Vice President Joe Biden has not exactly been packing them in,…
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Arthur Brain

Arthur Brain

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annabenedetti said:
Trump was campaigning in smaller and smaller venues and ignoring Covid recommendations but they couldn't hide the empty seats or the overflow stage they didn't need and ended up dismantling. Biden's were held remotely or with Covid recommendations which would of course mean smaller crowds.

Jefferson won't be able to recognize this though. He's a QAnon believer.
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Exactly, but somehow this probably still won't compute with the conspiracy crowd...
 
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marke

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annabenedetti said:
Highest turnout in 120 years, current population over 330 million... what did you expect?



Sorry, you simply don't have the wherewithal to know what his supporters are/were thinking.

Your argument comes down to "Biden got more votes than Trump, therefore Biden's votes are fake and besides I think he's boring and because I think he's boring all Biden's supporters think he's boring too so no way he got that many votes."
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America has never seen such a turnout in its entire history. Several democrat precincts even recorded more than 100% of county residents turning out. Democrats who think that sort of turnout is amazing, not criminal, are stupid.
 
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marke

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annabenedetti said:
Trump was campaigning in smaller and smaller venues and ignoring Covid recommendations but they couldn't hide the empty seats or the overflow stage they didn't need and ended up dismantling. Biden's were held remotely or with Covid recommendations which would of course mean smaller crowds.

Jefferson won't be able to recognize this though. He's a QAnon believer.
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Democrats managed to shrink Trump's crowd-size by fascist democrat covid edicts, but that fact does not mean that Trump's massive support was subsiding.
 
Derf

Derf

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Arthur Brain said:
Who are you to determine that Biden elicited complete boredom from his supporters? I've seen gatherings for both Trump and Biden during the election run and you're simply talking rubbish. Biden may be boring to you personally and that's fine but you're hardly a mouthpiece for those who voted for him.
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Hahahahahahaha!
 
Derf

Derf

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annabenedetti said:
Highest turnout in 120 years, current population over 330 million... what did you expect?



Sorry, you simply don't have the wherewithal to know what his supporters are/were thinking.

Your argument comes down to "Biden got more votes than Trump, therefore Biden's votes are fake and besides I think he's boring and because I think he's boring all Biden's supporters think he's boring too so no way he got that many votes."
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Nope, that’s not my argument, it’s just true that he’s too boring to get that many votes.
 
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