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ECT MADists don't follow Paul
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whitestone
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lol,got me I kept using spell check until I thought "ok you win",,,
He should tap out, it's sickening. The way tet is getting beaten to a pulp, lying on the mat, barely breathing
You're failing on so many levels
whitestone
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first there's a "great tribulation" rev.7:14 then there's others who follow Revelation 6:11 KJV . But do you see the distinction between Jews who deny Jesus(Jerusalem siege) and great trib. (christian)? do you see that the siege could not have fulfilled this?
Show us anyone who taught about a "rapture" before John Nelson Darby.
HINT: I can save you a lot of time, it doesn't exist.
whitestone
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who are killed because they will not worship the image when Revelations 13:15 KJV is fulfilled?
That's hilarious, because it's written. It came from GOD and this is what God says -
1 Thessalonians 4:14-15 KJV - 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 KJV -
whitestone
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yep, we had this discussion before, I believe in the rapture you do not,,,
The Great Tribulation happened to the Jews from 66AD - 70AD. It first took place in Judaea, and then Jerusalem.
The opening of the Six Seals in Revelation describe the wrath of God on the Jews and Judaea, and Jerusalem.
Rev 7 speaks of Christian Jews who came out of the Great Tribulation.
I'm not sure what you mean when you say "do you see that the siege could not have fulfilled this?"
There are stones from 30 AD that were not toppled - what say you ?
You should really do a study of 1 Thessalonians and 2 Thessalonians.
The phrase "the coming of the Lord" is found three times in 1 & 2 Thessalonians. Yet, Darby Followers such as yourself claim that two of the times the phrase refers to the rapture, but the other time it refers to the second coming of Christ (really the third time if you're a Dispy).
That's preposterous.
Dispensationalism is a mess. Like I said, not one person taught the rapture before John Nelson Darby.
Where are these stones today?
musterion
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Tettles is already on record from several months ago saying the remains of the wall that Jews now cry at didn't count towards the destruction of the temple; that it was a separate structure. If one accepts that, it must count against the destruction of Jerusalem as a whole. It's apparently one of the chunks that Josephus said was left standing, showing that the prediction in Luke 19 has not happened yet. If it had, nothing from that era would have remained.
That means prophecy regarding Israel has yet to be fulfilled, which Tettles cannot abide.
That means prophecy regarding Israel has yet to be fulfilled, which Tettles cannot abide.
I know, all Darby Followers believe in the rapture.
Nobody but Darby Followers believe in a rapture.
You won't find any other Christians other than Darby Followers who believe in a rapture.
Probably because it was Darby who invented the rapture.
Kind of like how only Mormons believe in the Book of Mormon.
whitestone
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the Christians went over the hills and down into the valley to Pella remember?
in the city of Jerusalem were those who did not pay head to the warning and were "not christian/awaited another Messiah".
So it does not fulfill a great tribulation where Christians are dying for their testimony of Jesus "my names sake",,,nor are they washed in the blood of the lamb that they do not believe in.
I never said that.
That wall that Christ rejecting Jews now cry at today has noting to do with the Second Temple.
HINT: Go back and read Josephus' account of what Jerusalem looked like after the destruction.
Let me know if Josephus describes a 62 foot high wall?
musterion
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whitestone
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was Irenaeus a Darby follower,was Paul?