Epoisses
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Please answer the question.
How will believers who make it through the Trib w/o falling away accomplish it?
ummm....by faith!?! Jesus did say when the Son of man returns will he find faith on the earth Luke 18:8.
Please answer the question.
How will believers who make it through the Trib w/o falling away accomplish it?
ummm....by faith!?!
Faith in what exactly?
My faith is in the finished work of Christ. I don't know what yours is in.
The very same, and nothing else.
Given that fact, how can a pretribber like myself fall away into damnation, as you said earlier would happen if it turns out there is no rapture?
LOL...The rapture is a delusion of the faithless who will submit to the beast in a matter of seconds when the tribulation begins. Just a disgrace to the name of Christ!!!
Earlier you decided I wouldn't.
In fact, you seemed to take pleasure at the thought.
No, there is sadness in my heart
You wrote me off as lost already.
Hence the LOL.
I've no time for liars.
[Rapture] LOL. The golden parachute for the church, what a load of bunk. Did God rapture out the faithful who were mauled by lions in the arena?
I've been a mad since I read things that differ by Stam in 1994. But I've never been able to convince myself that a pretrib rapture is biblical. I've tried to find it. But 2 thessalonians seems to say the antichrist and the tribulation come first. I've been told we are like enoch but i think it's a stretch. I guess I'm post trib. Someone please help me see it.
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Also in 1st thessalonians paul says we are to meet the lord in the air. Sound of a trumpet with the dead resurrecting first. Which in Revelations happens at the last trump. I realize im the body of christ not israel. I realize paul is my apostle as a gentile. I know Christs bride in revelations is israel. But i just cant find enough proof for the pretrib rapture. I know the endtimes is jacobs trouble which shouldnt have anything to do with me. I also cant accept rev 4.1 come up hither as a rapture because they are calling john up.