True. But did Paul say that the body of Christ is the church?
Jesus' word is the center of Christianity.
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You need to back up what you are saying. What reason do you have for associating the body of Christ with a mystery?
The Body of Christ is a New Testament metaphor for Church. They are one of the same.
The KJV, NKJV, NASB do not have "mystery body of Christ". But the NIV does.
Ephesians 3:6 NIV - 6 This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.
The phrase body of Christ is not in this verse. That is okay.
Ephesians 3:6 NIV - 6 This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.
The phrase body of Christ is not in this verse. That is okay.
The NKJV has these two verses (I searched for church body of Christ).
Ephesians 5:23 NKJV - 23 For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body.
Colossians 1:24 NKJV - 24 I now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up in my flesh what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ, for the sake of His body, which is the church,
Colossians 1:26 states: "Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:"
Jacob, this is a forum. If you desire to know all there is to know about the Mystery you can do your own study. Obviously you have access to Google? I'm not here to cut/paste copious amounts of materials. Some are willing to do that. I've been out of school for 45 years. This isn't a school, it's a place to discuss religious matters.
The church was known of. And the church is the body of Christ. And the church had Jewish believers before Gentile believers.
I understand this is your approach. But I am here to learn from others. You say this isn't a school, and it is not, and we are in the religion forum so it is a place to discuss religious matters. But how are you going to discuss without scripture and communication? I don't just blindly accept what you say. And, I have your best interest in mind, not just the interest of those in and viewing this forum.
It says what the mystery is here. It is: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
I told you, and now you are taking credit for telling me. Okay. I know you are older than I, and you are driving the conversation, like I said.
Meshak,
How about these?
John 5:24 NASB - 24 "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
John 8:37 NASB - 37 "I know that you are Abraham's descendants; yet you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you.
John 12:48 NASB - 48 "He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day.
How about these?
John 5:24 NASB - 24 "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
John 8:37 NASB - 37 "I know that you are Abraham's descendants; yet you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you.
John 12:48 NASB - 48 "He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day.
That's what I have been doing. Again, this isn't a school type arena. You can always search Google if you don't believe what I have to say. Even Google will take you to the Scripture you need.
Google kind of "Evens the field" for everyone.
Jesus taught apostles who were Jews, and He told them to teach everything to the world He taught them.
So it is obvious Jesus' teachings or commands are not just for Jews.
An online forum is a place to learn. You don't need a degree to study the Bible. And it is okay to study the Bible with others. The format is to go with the OP. That means, comments in a thread need to relate to the OP. But studying with others means that what we learn may not be what the author of the OP intended, whether the OP was to teach or begin to teach or provide a place to learn about a topic or subject, or if it was to ask a question or any combination of study and learn and teach and ask questions. Oftentimes people have an argument or something they are trying to get across. To understand a premise or a conclusion takes some understanding, even if that is the format within this format. But that is not all that we do here. And that would be more like school. Or, like real life. Is it possible to prove anything? Well, we would do better to learn from scripture than to try to prove our own opinion. But we can use our own words in so doing.
The mystery relates to the combining of both Jew and Gentile into one body.
Google is fine. But if you want to study the Bible, especially by way of concordance, I recommend blueletterbible.org.
Do you believe you can show that from the passage or context within which your verse is found?
All His followers have hope of being saved if they are faithful to Him until the end. We have to finish the race and wait Jesus' judgment if we were indeed true to Him until the end.
Salvation is not one time confession.