He didn't preach from it. He quoted some scriptures from it. Paul did not preach the law or religion.
He preached salvation by grace through faith apart from the works of the law,
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He didn't preach from it. He quoted some scriptures from it. Paul did not preach the law or religion.
He preached salvation by grace through faith apart from the works of the law,
"Christians are no longer under the law, nor are they subject to it."-you
That is not your only argument:
Vs.
"There is only one law, Moses law. It was abolished when Jesus died on the cross, Matthew 27:51.....Not only was the law abolished, so was the Old Covenant and the Jewish religion.....The Old Covenant, the law and the Jewish religion have been abolished."-you, this thread
Bingo, bango, bongo.....
You need to get your story straight, and pay attention to details, as I do.
Dig?
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Made up. Fulfilled does not mean "abolished"/"destroyed."
Another droid that asserts that everyone is saved.
Hebrews 8 KJV
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
While you are at it, read.....
1 Timothy 1:9 KJV
knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
Galatians 3:24-25 KJV
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Romans 3:20 KJV
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Romans 7:7 KJV
What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
...and get saved.
So there.
I guess he was just monkeying around? To hear you tell it. :sheep:I told you long ago, you should listen more and stop acting as if you have answers.
That is not your only argument:
Vs.
"There is only one law, Moses law. It was abolished when Jesus died on the cross, Matthew 27:51.....Not only was the law abolished, so was the Old Covenant and the Jewish religion.....The Old Covenant, the law and the Jewish religion have been abolished."-you, this thread
The above is made up, satanic.
Did righteous Abel keep the law? Or was he saved by grace?
And since the Mosaic law has not been viable since 70 CE neither is anyone else.
That's such a senseless comment.
Not made up, but supported by scripture, Ephesians 2:15, Colossians 2:14, 2 Corinthians 3:13.
Where is your scripture that says... "The just shall live by the law" There isn't a scripture that says that.
Paul wrote to the Hebrews that the law was decaying and passing away, Hebrews 8:13.
Not only did Jesus abolish the law, he also abolished sin, death and the devil.
Abel knew something about the Gospel. That is why his offering was a lamb without spot or blemish. God was pleased with Abel's offering, but not Cain's. Cain's offering was from his garden that was the work of his hands.
What a stupid comment, people still die, people still sin and the devil walks about like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. (1 Peter 5:8)
This is made up-no scripture says that....
"There is only one law, Moses law. It was abolished when Jesus died on the cross, Matthew 27:51.....Not only was the law abolished, so was the Old Covenant and the Jewish religion.....The Old Covenant, the law and the Jewish religion have been abolished....Not only did Jesus abolish the law,."-you, this thread
The above is made up, satanic.
Both the Ephesians and Colossians passages are not referencing the law of Moses, deceitful one. Christians are not "under he law"/"subject to the law" in the sense of their respective walk; however, that is not your "argument," Pate-you say that the law was done away with/abolished, which is satanic, and thus assert, by that "argument," that:
-everyone is saved
-the lost no longer, like Paul, the Galatians.....who were led to Christ, by the law, are no longer
-no longer are the lost given the knowledge of what sin is, through the law
-Murder, covetousness, theft.....................................are OK by you, as their is no law to condemn them
No Christian argues, as you do, the above, and that we should delete these scriptures, as they no longer apply, as you do:
1 Timothy 1:9 KJV
knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
Galatians 3:24-25 KJV
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Romans 3:20 KJV
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Romans 7:7 KJV
What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Satanic.
"Paul wrote to the Hebrews that the law was decaying "-Pate
vs. Hebrews 8:13 KJV
In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
=satanic misquoting scripture.
"Not only did Jesus abolish the law,"-Pate
Vs. post cross:
Galatians 3:24-25 KJV
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Pate: Jesus abolished the law, but it was resurrected after the cross, leading Paul, others, the lost to Christ.
You are either demonic, or stupid-which is it Pate?
Vs. post cross:
Galatians 3:24-25 KJV
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Pate: Jesus abolished the law, but it was resurrected after the cross, leading Paul, others, the lost to Christ.
You are either demonic, or stupid-which is it Pate?
As far as God is concerned Jesus has victoriously defeated sin death and the devil, Colossians 2:15 and now sits at the right hand of God as "The King of Kings and the Lord of Lords" Revelation 19:16 Also Hebrews 1:3. Jesus has victoriously reconciled the whole world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19.
Can you believe?
"Not only did Jesus abolish the law,"-Pate
Vs. post cross:
Romans 3:20 KJV
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Romans 7:7 KJV
What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Pate: Jesus abolished the law, but it was resurrected after the cross, leading Paul, others, the lost to know what sin is.
You are either demonic, or stupid-which is it Pate?
Vs. post cross:
Romans 3:20 KJV
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Romans 7:7 KJV
What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Pate: Jesus abolished the law, but it was resurrected after the cross, leading Paul, others, the lost to know what sin is.
You are either demonic, or stupid-which is it Pate?
Can you believe Jesus has victoriously defeated sin death and the devil for himself and now he is working to do the same in those the Father has given to him. We are a work in progress.
I am afraid that you are the dumb one.
Of course the law is our schoolmaster that leads us to Christ, but what does the scripture say? "But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster, for you are all children of God by faith in Christ Jesus" Galatians 3:25, 26.
The law brings the lost to Christ, because the law is for the lost, but not for Christians.
I am surprised that you do not know these things.
For HIMSELF?
All that Jesus was and all that he did was for us, in our name and on our behalf.
He was without sin, 2 Corinthians 5:21.
Observe, the deception. You did not argue only, Pate, that "Of course the law is our schoolmaster that leads us to Christ, the law brings the lost to Christ, because the law is for the lost, but not for Christians. I agree that the law brings the lost to Christ, because the law is for the lost, but not for Christians." You also argue, however:
"There is only one law, Moses law. It was abolished when Jesus died on the cross, Matthew 27:51.....Not only was the law abolished, so was the Old Covenant and the Jewish religion.....The Old Covenant, the law and the Jewish religion have been abolished....Not only did Jesus abolish the law,."-you, this thread
Thus, you say, out of one side of your mouth, that "Jesus" abolished the law when he died on the cross, but, out of the other, "the law is our schoolmaster that leads us to Christ, the law brings the lost to Christ, because the law is for the lost."
How can the law bring you, me, Paul, the lost, to Christ, if it no longer existed/exists-was/is abolished?
Rhetorical q-you are either demonic, or stoned/stupid. There is no other option.
"There is only one law, Moses law. It was abolished when Jesus died on the cross, Matthew 27:51.....Not only was the law abolished, so was the Old Covenant and the Jewish religion.....The Old Covenant, the law and the Jewish religion have been abolished....Not only did Jesus abolish the law,."-you, this thread
Thus, you say, out of one side of your mouth, that "Jesus" abolished the law when he died on the cross, but, out of the other, "the law is our schoolmaster that leads us to Christ, the law brings the lost to Christ, because the law is for the lost."
How can the law bring you, me, Paul, the lost, to Christ, if it no longer existed/exists-was/is abolished?
Rhetorical q-you are either demonic, or stoned/stupid. There is no other option.