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LOL... you are a complete moron that cannot even discuss anything in English.
Jesus is God !
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How are we trying to rewrite the scriptures? You have yet to show us how.
You are directly contradicting the scripture RD just posted. Shame on you. You should repent.
Homeschooling educates children FAR better than any other form of schooling. I WISH I was homeschooled, and if I ever have kids, will homeschool them.
Your attempt at insulting RD, because of your poor education, falls flat.
Also, did you notice how you avoided everything I said?
Respond appropriately, please.
He can't discuss anything in English, I don't see how he can even HOPE to discuss anything in Aramaic...
Lon
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A bit late, aren't you? I bowed out some time ago. Either people listen or they do not. You've been shown why there are problems, all intellectually, and academically challenging and viable. There can be no excuse, you are either reasonable and rational or you are indoctrinated. I'm not really interested in people dedicated to their church, but people dedicated to truth and God.
Good! So do we!
Yep.
Let's see:
John 10:30-36
30 I and the Father are one.”
"Is One?" What is your point?
31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, 32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”
33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
There you go, no?
34 Jesus answered them, "No, I never said, that. I said I was the "SON" of God!"
Except He NEVER said that. Would have been a really good answer, no??? Where is TrevorL's honesty???
34 Jesus answered them,“Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’[a]? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside—
Propositional truth given, then He says what it means:
36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world?
In other words, He IS claiming to be God! :noway: Awesome, no? Welcome to truthful thinking! We call such people 1) honest and 2) Triune. Welcome aboard!
Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?
So not only for being 'God's Son,' but 'God' as well, by Jesus' own argument. You can TRY and show this all in a different light, but it won't work. It is, as you say, this clear.
Greetings again JudgeRightly, Right Divider and Lon,
As I said my purpose was to hit and run, and I will look in again at this thread if it is still running in 3 months. A brief response:
Kind regards
Trevor
As I said my purpose was to hit and run, and I will look in again at this thread if it is still running in 3 months. A brief response:
Really, but I doubt that we agree what these terms represent in actual fact.
Psalm 110:1 clearly distinguishes between Yahweh and David's Lord.
Jesus is claiming to be the Son of God.
Kind regards
Trevor
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That does not mean that they are not both God.
The Father is God.
The Son is God.
The Holy Spirit is God.
And yet there is only one God.
That's what the Bible says, so I believe it.
Lon
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EXCEPT He didn't! I JUST showed you that He didn't. I also said those committed to their churches over truth, aren't open to God, just whoever their church says their god is. Do you want to follow god or God?
Probably your first step is going to have to be to stop attending indoctrination seminars and feel-good board meetings at your local cult (not derogatory) assembly.
beloved57
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1Jn 5:20 declares Jesus the Son is the True God,
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Son of God, who is the immediate antecedent to the relative pronoun "this"; he is the true God,
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Son of God, who is the immediate antecedent to the relative pronoun "this"; he is the true God,
Don't be a troll, Keypurr. Trolling will get you banned. Permanently.
The twisting comes from you sir. You don't know how to interpret John 1:1
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Agree!
It needs no interpretation. We just have to believe God's Word.
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No, He did Not. Your repeating it does not change that.
Jesus said that His Father is the only true God.
Jesus did NOT say that only the Father is the true God.
Get it right, old heretic.
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keypurr
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He said his Father is the ONLY true God. That means exactly what it says. Why do you not see that? You do not wish to see it.
keypurr
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Yep I do BR
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Sure does... what is DOES NOT SAY is that ONLY the Father is the true God, senior heretic.
I see perfectly clearly.
You are incorrect as per your usual.
Is there some sort of mental disconnect that prevents you from seeing the difference between these two posts?
Cognitive Dissonance, perhaps?
beloved57
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Did Isaiah see Jesus Christ as God, the Lord of Hosts in this vision ? Isa 6:1-3
In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.
2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.
3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.
4 And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke.
5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts.
The New Testament scripture gives us light, in that Isaih was actually seeing the Lord Jesus Christ as the Lord of Hosts, who is God Jn 12:39-41
39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.
41 These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, and spake of him. Is not a reference to Isa 6:1-3 when he saw the Glory of the Lord of Hosts ?
John Gill comments:
In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.
2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.
3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.
4 And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke.
5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts.
The New Testament scripture gives us light, in that Isaih was actually seeing the Lord Jesus Christ as the Lord of Hosts, who is God Jn 12:39-41
39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.
41 These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, and spake of him. Is not a reference to Isa 6:1-3 when he saw the Glory of the Lord of Hosts ?
John Gill comments: