Jesus Has ALREADY Reconciled Us and the World to God. No Religion Was Needed

Robert Pate

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Anything he does is a work of the flesh Rom. 8:7-8.

This is why we are justified by faith.

"Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" Romans 5:1.

Faith is not a work, even if it was a work, it is not a work that saves.

Jesus is the savior.
 

beloved57

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This is why we are justified by faith.

"Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" Romans 5:1.

Faith is not a work, even if it was a work, it is not a work that saves.

Jesus is the savior.

You teach that sinners are Justified by their free will. That is Justification by works or law. You deny Grace justification.
 

beloved57

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Pate
Jesus is the savior

You don't believe that, you teach that freewill of man is the Saviour. Because you believe that sinners Christ died for are going to perish in their sins anyways.
 

beloved57

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It makes no sense to you because you don't know or understand the Gospel that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

You apparently believe that religion is what justifies the ungodly and reconciles us and the world unto God.

Yet you teach that reconciled sinners die in their sins anyways!
 

beloved57

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They will die in their sins because like you they have rejected God's great free gift of salvation that has been provided for everyone by Jesus Christ, John 3:16.

That is making God unjust. Christ already died for their sins. Also you deny that Christ death alone saved them.
 

Robert Pate

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That is making God unjust. Christ already died for their sins. Also you deny that Christ death alone saved them.

Salvation is a free gift from God, Romans 5:18.

If you want to be saved you will have to receive the free gift of salvation, John 1:12.
 

Nanja

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Salvation is a free gift from God, Romans 5:18.

If you want to be saved you will have to receive the free gift of salvation, John 1:12.


False teaching!



A person can only receive Christ in a way that leads to Salvation
after they have been given a New Nature in New Birth,
because the natural man cannot discern Spiritual things.

1 Cor. 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:
for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them,
because they are spiritually discerned.


John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:
the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.


John 3:27
John answered and said, A man can receive nothing,
except it be given him from heaven
.
 

Robert Pate

Well-known member
Banned

False teaching!



A person can only receive Christ in a way that leads to Salvation
after they have been given a New Nature in New Birth,
because the natural man cannot discern Spiritual things.

1 Cor. 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:
for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them,
because they are spiritually discerned.


John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:
the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.


John 3:27
John answered and said, A man can receive nothing,
except it be given him from heaven
.


You quote scripture, but you only quote scripture that you think confirms Calvinism.

You never quote scripture that honors God and glorifies Jesus Christ and his Gospel.

It is the work of the Holy Spirit to honor God and glorify Jesus Christ, John 15:26. All that you want to talk about is Calvinism because that is your god.
 

Robert Pate

Well-known member
Banned
False statement and promoting salvation by works!

There is no work that anyone can do to be saved.

The work of salvation has already been accomplished by Jesus Christ.

You have ALREADY been reconciled unto God by Jesus Christ. But you want to be predestinated.
 

beloved57

Well-known member
There is no work that anyone can do to be saved.

The work of salvation has already been accomplished by Jesus Christ.

You have ALREADY been reconciled unto God by Jesus Christ. But you want to be predestinated.

Yes, you teach salvation by works, by the work of man!
 

Nanja

Well-known member
You quote scripture, but you only quote scripture that you think confirms Calvinism.

You never quote scripture that honors God and glorifies Jesus Christ and his Gospel

All that you want to talk about is Calvinism because that is your god.


Foolish statements.

All of scripture Honors God and Glorifies Jesus Christ and His Gospel, including these:


A person can only receive Christ in a way that leads to Salvation
after they have been given a New Nature in New Birth,
because the natural man cannot discern Spiritual things.

1 Cor. 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:
for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them,
because they are spiritually discerned.

John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:
the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.


John 3:27
John answered and said, A man can receive nothing,
except it be given him from heaven.


Dan. 4:35
And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?
 

Ben Masada

New member
You are trying to be justified by your Jewish religion that has been abolished, Hebrews 8:6-13. The law does not justify. Your Jewish religion is a total failure.

If you transgress the Law and care nothing about setting things right with the Lord, you will never find justification of any sort; believe me, you won't. (Isael 1:18,19)
 

Robert Pate

Well-known member
Banned
If you transgress the Law and care nothing about setting things right with the Lord, you will never find justification of any sort; believe me, you won't. (Isael 1:18,19)

Paul said, "There is none righteous, no, not one" Romans 3:10.

So, you are going to stand before a holy God in the judgment and plead your righteousness?
 

Robert Pate

Well-known member
Banned
Foolish statements.

All of scripture Honors God and Glorifies Jesus Christ and His Gospel, including these:

Your mean, cruel, Calvinist God does not exist.

The God of the Bible so loves the world that he gives his only begotten Son for the sins of the world, John 3:16.

So that now, "Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.
 
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