Nanja
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Only the Elect Chosen In Union with Christ to have forgiveness of sins Eph. 1:4-7 are Saved, even before the World began 2 Tim. 1:9!
Jesus Has ALREADY Reconciled Us and the World to God. No Religion Was Needed
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Only the Elect Chosen In Union with Christ to have forgiveness of sins Eph. 1:4-7 are Saved, even before the World began 2 Tim. 1:9!
beloved57
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Yep !
God chose all of humanity in Jesus Christ. Salvation has been provided for every one, Hebrews 2:9.
Nanja
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You deprive the Death of Christ of its Saving Efficacy by saying Christ died for everyone but yet many will end up in the Second Death. That's Blasphemy!
Rev. 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
No it is not. Those who taste of the second death have not accepted Christ as Saviour.
beloved57
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Bearing false witness!
So, you are saying that God's word is false?
Nanja
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Pate is a false witness and an enemy of the True God of the scriptures!
beloved57
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You bear false witness, you deny that Christ death saved them He died for!
Nanja
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Amen Brother!
The good news of the Gospel is that Jesus has victoriously defeated sin, death and the devil and in doing so has reconciled us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. So that now... "Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.
No Calvinism or religion was needed.
beloved57
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You deny the Good News, you teach that sinners Christ died for are going to perish in their sins anyways! How is that Good News? That's blasphemy and bad news.
The only ones that will die in their sins are the ones that have rejected God's great free gift of salvation that has been provided by Jesus Christ.
"For the wages of sin is death; but the GIFT OF GOD is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord" Romans 6:23.
beloved57
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Those Christ died for are reconciled to God while they are enemies rejecting God Rom 5:10
If God has ALREADY reconciled the world unto himself by Jesus Christ that means that your Calvinist religion is worthless.
beloved57
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Those Christ died for were reconciled to God while rejecting Him. So how can someone Jesus died for perish in their sins for rejecting Him ?
You think that Christ rejectors have been reconciled to God? I don't think that even the devil believes that.
glorydaz
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beloved57 will never understand that reconciliation is a two-party act. In order for Hatfield and McCoy to find peace, they must BOTH agree. In order for man and God to find peace, they must both agree to it. There is no reconciliation unless both parties become reconciled to the other. This is not rocket science, folks.
God, through the Lord Jesus Christ, has done his part, now each man must do his.
beloved57
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Those Christ died for are reconciled to God while they are enemies rejecting and hating God Rom 5:10!
Nanja
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True, because even while being enemies, Christ's Sheep John 10:15 don't have their sins imputed to them Rom. 4:6-8.
But the non-sheep do have their sins imputed to them, they were already condemned John 3:18,36; John 10:26.