Do I seriously have to break out the "let me google that for you" links?
Go look it up yourself.
Jesus CANNOT be Jehovah/YHVH God
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Go look it up yourself.
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Humans are flesh and spirit. Do you agree?
A human son is a son because it shares the same flesh and blood as the father; however, humans have their own spirit.
So then, Jesus is flesh and blood and his spirit is the Spirit from God, which makes him more than just a man, but God Himself come in the flesh.
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What makes Jesus a son of God?
Anything starting life directly from God is a son or progeny. The angels, Jesus, and Adam.
Jesus is uniquely begotten.
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The Bible tells us that the purification/ceremonial works of the law, including the observance of special days, even the Sabbath day, was a shadow of Jesus and a teaching tool. They are now worthless because Jesus came and is light.
You preach the old purification/ceremonial works of the law, and therefore make yourself a bitter root who falls from grace.
Grace is that we no more have to do the purification/ceremonial works.
Hebrews 12:15
Be careful that no one falls short of the grace of God, so that no root of bitterness will spring up to cause trouble and defile many.
When the Galatians were talked into observing special days and getting circumcised, Paul had to form Christ in them all over again.
They fell from grace.
Galatians 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,
Aimiel
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God doesn't belong to a religion. He isn't affiliated with the Jews. He is Christ.
He is The Passover for the whole world. Only those who believe in Him may partake of Him. Eating His Flesh and drinking His Blood is how we partake of His Fellowship. He comes to live inside believers. If you don't have The Spirit of Christ you are none of His.
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Scripture makes The Spirit of God and The Spirit of Christ out to be ONE. We don't have two Holy Spirits in us. The believers in the upper room weren't filled with Holy Spirits (plural). They were filled with The Spirit of Christ, The Spirit of God. He is God. Whether you believe that or not is up to you. Scripture is clear. Your cult is nothing but error. :duh:
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How do you think Jesus is uniquely begotten? Do you believe he was begotten first in heaven, or only called begotten as a son when he came in the flesh?
Paul is clear they ARE shadows not were...
But you wanna run along do so...
Heb 4:9 and Is 66:23 go with you
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glorydaz
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You see the problem with the law is it brings out legalism and judgmentalism.....You have just shown us all why believers have been delivered from the law. :chuckle:
Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. You are a foolish heathen "wanna be" Christian. :down:
You need to learn how to use the quote function. I am not "G" and there should be a little blue arrow after my quotes. If you can't figure that out, how can anyone expect you to figure out the difference between law and grace?
Oh, and get a better Bible dictionary. You can't keep making things up to suit your fancy. :sigh:
Looks like your definition of Godhead fails...."Godly attributes". :doh:
Although attempts to deceive are some of man's devises. Alas you've been caught once again.
Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
So what. Tuna fish isn't there either, but we know tuna fish exists.
When Jesus declares that He is God, as He does in John 8, we must either believe Him or reject Him. You reject Him. I believe Him.
The Jews attempted to kill Him because He declared He was God. It's right there.
How's that crutch holding up for you?
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'Spirits' are not just thoughts. Do you think angels are just thoughts?
Just fyi, "heathen" is a term that refers to polytheistic worship of Germanic and Norse gods and goddesses.
I think you meant "pagan."
Please deal with the text;
John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him
So, you think tuna fish is of equal importance with your theory regarding Jesus as God?
Your point is beyond silly.
Just admit that you have ZERO texts that clearly, simply and directly state your theory.
Where???M said:
Of course not. As I have pointed out many times, there are SEVERAL definitions for "spirit". It depends on the context. Most of the times, in Scripture "spirit" is discussing thinking, attitude. Some times "spirit" means breath. Some times spirit means a being with a message, a messenger.
LOL, what a funny leap in thought.
Dart, scripture has been shared. You reject it. That's your crutch. You are free to treat Jesus as less than what he is. You'll have to answer to him someday so I hope you can handle that moment.
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Nope, I'm using it in the broader Biblical sense.
Leviticus 26:45 But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their God: I am the Lord.
2 Chronicles 20:6 And said, O Lord God of our fathers, art not thou God in heaven? and rulest not thou over all the kingdoms of the heathen? and in thine hand is there not power and might, so that none is able to withstand thee?
Galatians 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
2 Chronicles 20:6 And said, O Lord God of our fathers, art not thou God in heaven? and rulest not thou over all the kingdoms of the heathen? and in thine hand is there not power and might, so that none is able to withstand thee?
Galatians 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
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So stop using the wrong definition every time I speak of God's Spirit and Jesus'.
Now since you admit that spirits are more than just thoughts, tell me how the Father's Spirit and Jesus' Spirit live in the saved if they are not both God.
Don't forget, we are only given one Spirit when we are saved, but we have the Father and Jesus when we receive the Holy Spirit.
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