How much do you know about research and development using aborted baby body parts and tissues? An official at Planned Parenthood, for example, was caught on hidden camera admitting PP sold aborted baby body parts to interested parties, likely mostly for research. The fact that Kamala Harris herself had the movie-maker jailed and his films confiscated did not prove PP does not sell body parts, but it does prove that officials in the US government will stop that information from getting out in the public by unlawful means if necessary.
Is there a risk of death from the covid vaccine?
- Thread starter marke
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Sure there is! Ready?
Only 1 person in 33,333.33 has died shortly after getting the vaccine which is not only a statistically insignificant number but also and the majority of those who died were already past the average life expectancy of humans and so may have simply died of old age. Additionally, there is no affirmative evidence that exists at all that even suggests that the deaths were caused by the vaccine itself.
Case dismissed.
By that logic, your shoe insoles might have something to do with aborted fetal research and the Earth might be flat.
Who knows?! Maybe the government is lying to us about the Earth being round!
You need to read more carefully.
Nowhere did I mention Covid or the Covid vaccines in any of my posts.
I stated that any vaccine that uses or is developed using dead babies should be considered immoral:
Arthur Brain
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So, you weren't referring to Covid at all with the following then?
"I think the arguments you and marke have been making ignore the fact that many of the vaccines that have been created were done so by using the body parts and tissues of dead babies.
If there was any reason to reject the vaccines, that would be it, because it would be immoral to approve of such vaccines."
Why even mention any of that at all if you weren't referring to Covid vaccines, considering, ya know, that's what the thread is about?!
Arthur Brain
Well-known member
Your idea of "facts" are a complete joke. You and ffreeloader are pretty much equal in the bat crazy conspiracy theory stakes...
What propagandists are saying is that government health organizations have not found a link between a person's death and their vaccination only days earlier. So what? Researchers may not have found a link between Sodomy and AIDS either, but that does not mean the link does not exist. It just means the researchers obviously don't know everything.
You are not making sense. Are you aware that Dr. Fauci and thousands of other scientists linked to the government not only support research using aborted baby tissues but also participate in such research?
It has not been uncommon for those in error to mock those adhering to the truth.
7 Scientists whose ideas were rejected during their lifetimes
We've all had ideas - some good, some not so good. I can't begin to imagine how hair-pullingly frustrating it must be to hatch a brilliant new idea, believe passionately that it's right, then find everyone else ignoring you, or telling you that you're wrong, or even mocking you. Worse still...
www.famousscientists.org
Ignaz Semmelweis Hand Washing Saves Lives
Lived 1818 to 1865
The story of Ignaz Semmelweis is tragic on a number of levels.
Firstly, there are the women who died who shouldn’t have.
In 1847 Semmelweis, who was an obstetrician, (a doctor specializing in childbirth), published evidence that when doctors washed their hands before examining or treating patients, the mortality rate for women in his birthing ward in Vienna, Austria, was greatly reduced.
In his hospital, doctors routinely examined diseased corpses in the mortuary, then attended women in childbirth without first washing their hands. In some months as many as a third of the women in the birthing part of the hospital were dying!
Semmelweis could not explain why hand-washing was effective – he didn’t know about germs – he just saw that it worked and that patients no longer caught fevers and other diseases.
The second tragedy is that although Semmelweis cut death rates in his own hospital, his attempts to spread the word failed. Many people died because hand-washing was not made a routine part of hospital practice.
Here is more latest news for misguided covid vaccine cheerleaders.
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7 Members of the New York Yankees Have COVID-19 Even Though They Were Vaccinated-Here's How That Can Happen
The number of COVID breakthrough cases on the NY Yankees team rose to seven. Find out what a breakthrough case is, according to experts.
The team made the announcement about the breakthrough cases in a press conference on March 11, noting that four non-coach support staff members also tested positive for the virus. All seven of those who tested positive received the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, the team said, and just one of the seven had "some symptoms" of COVID-19. The positive cases were picked up through routine testing.
Arthur Brain
Well-known member
Ignaz Semmelweiss hit on something that's common practice today and it's tragic that his advice wasn't followed at the time.It has not been uncommon for those in error to mock those adhering to the truth.
7 Scientists whose ideas were rejected during their lifetimes
We've all had ideas - some good, some not so good. I can't begin to imagine how hair-pullingly frustrating it must be to hatch a brilliant new idea, believe passionately that it's right, then find everyone else ignoring you, or telling you that you're wrong, or even mocking you. Worse still...
Ignaz Semmelweis Hand Washing Saves Lives
Lived 1818 to 1865
The story of Ignaz Semmelweis is tragic on a number of levels.
Firstly, there are the women who died who shouldn’t have.
In 1847 Semmelweis, who was an obstetrician, (a doctor specializing in childbirth), published evidence that when doctors washed their hands before examining or treating patients, the mortality rate for women in his birthing ward in Vienna, Austria, was greatly reduced.
In his hospital, doctors routinely examined diseased corpses in the mortuary, then attended women in childbirth without first washing their hands. In some months as many as a third of the women in the birthing part of the hospital were dying!
Semmelweis could not explain why hand-washing was effective – he didn’t know about germs – he just saw that it worked and that patients no longer caught fevers and other diseases.
The second tragedy is that although Semmelweis cut death rates in his own hospital, his attempts to spread the word failed. Many people died because hand-washing was not made a routine part of hospital practice.
You are not him. You are some guy on the net pushing all manner of outlandish conspiracy rubbish.
And by that logic there might be a link between cancer and playing with Rubic's Cubes.
Just because no one has found one doesn't mean it doesn't exist! Right?
Are you aware of what a Red Herring fallacy is?
I truly do not understand how people can say things that argue against their own position as though it argued in favor of it!!Here is more latest news for misguided covid vaccine cheerleaders.
Seven people traveling with the New York Yankees, including three coaches, have tested positive for COVID-19—and all were fully vaccinated against the virus.7 Members of the New York Yankees Have COVID-19 Even Though They Were Vaccinated-Here's How That Can Happen
The number of COVID breakthrough cases on the NY Yankees team rose to seven. Find out what a breakthrough case is, according to experts.www.health.com
The team made the announcement about the breakthrough cases in a press conference on March 11, noting that four non-coach support staff members also tested positive for the virus. All seven of those who tested positive received the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, the team said, and just one of the seven had "some symptoms" of COVID-19. The positive cases were picked up through routine testing.
You're going to rest your case on seven people who caught COVID after having gotten one of the vaccines. (The least effective and most problematic one at that, by the way.)
I am expressing my opinions just like you are and like Semmelweiss did. I've been saying all along that masks are not needed to stop covid and now the CDC has agreed. Case closed.
Let's say it is causing a lot of concern among very reasonable people that so many of those who get vaccinated end up with health problems or death. The fact that research may be beginning to try to determine the cause but which has yet to prove anything is not justification for declaring that science has proven there is no link between the vaccine and those who have taken it.
Are you aware that avoiding answering the question is not the same thing as proving the question invalid?
Why don't we agree together that vaccines are still in the trial stage and should not be treated as if they have been proven safe and/or effective?
expos4ever
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Evidence please.
expos4ever
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Evidence please. How many cases have there been of gunshot-caused deaths being attributed to covid?