Is there a risk of death from the covid vaccine?

way 2 go

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VAERS data released today by the CDC showed a total of 358,379 reports of adverse events from all age groups following COVID vaccines, including 5,993 deaths and 29,871 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and June 11, 2021."



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marke

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The link to the scientific paper doesn't work.

I'd be willing to bet that it doesn't say a syllable about the protein causing any ill effects.

Also, if the protein is so toxic why have there been hundreds of millions of doses administered with only a few thousand people having significant health effects? It seems that in nearly all cases the vaccine is entirely safe and in ANY case that the vaccine is far far safer than the virus itself.
According to the paper, published research shows that the spike proteins in modern coronavirus vaccines injected into humans to fight covid can cause blood-clotting and respiratory damage, among other things, by damaging the body's natural immunities as well as damaging the coronavirus' ability to fight off those natural immunities.
 

Gary K

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"VAERS data released today by the CDC showed a total of 358,379 reports of adverse events from all age groups following COVID vaccines, including 5,993 deaths and 29,871 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and June 11, 2021."



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And according to the Lazurus Report, paid for by the CDC, and then ignored when completed, fewer than 1% of adverse vaccine events are reported to the VAERS database.
 

Gary K

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According to the paper, published research shows that the spike proteins in modern coronavirus vaccines injected into humans to fight covid can cause blood-clotting and respiratory damage, among other things, by damaging the body's natural immunities as well as damaging the coronavirus' ability to fight off those natural immunities.
Don't forget that the spike proteins created by the vaccines, and by the virus, can, and do, damage the blood-brain barrier allowing substances that should never reach the brain access to it. The spike proteins from the vaccines also damage the reproductive organs of females as within 48 hours of getting one of these shots high concentrations of the spike protein are found in the ovaries. Female children as young as two years old are having vaginal bleeding. And women who have never had irregular periods are having major problems with their periods. Some women start bleeding and never stop. Other women just stop having periods at all. Women beyond the years of child bearing years who have stopped having periods years ago have now started bleeding continuously.

These genetic modification experiments are having severe effects upon the human body.
 

way 2 go

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Don't forget that the spike proteins created by the vaccines, and by the virus, can, and do, damage the blood-brain barrier allowing substances that should never reach the brain access to it. The spike proteins from the vaccines also damage the reproductive organs of females as within 48 hours of getting one of these shots high concentrations of the spike protein are found in the ovaries. Female children as young as two years old are having vaginal bleeding. And women who have never had irregular periods are having major problems with their periods. Some women start bleeding and never stop. Other women just stop having periods at all. Women beyond the years of child bearing years who have stopped having periods years ago have now started bleeding continuously.

These genetic modification experiments are having severe effects upon the human body.
522 unborn children

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Clete

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I'm reminded by this thread, once again, that this entire website is a fruitless waste of time. It was worthwhile years ago - YEARS AGO! Now, its not the atheists or the liberals who intransigent but it's those who claim to be Christians that openly lie, spread assinine conspiracy theories and aggressively resist anything and everything that resembles reason, wisdom or common sense.

Good bye.
 
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ok doser

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I reminded by this thread, once again, that this entire website is a fruitless waste of time. It was worthwhile years ago - YEARS AGO! Now, its not the atheists or the liberals who intransigent but it's those who claim to be Christians that openly lie, spread assinine conspiracy theories and aggressively resist anything and everything that resembles reason, wisdom or common sense.

Good bye.
Who are you? : idunno:
 

Clete

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Don’t you know? He’s the definition of rational thinking until someone disagrees with him. Then he goes away in a huff. Pretty effective argument, wouldn’t you say?
Liar.

The entire point of this website is batting disagreements back and forth and that's exactly what used to take place here and I spent countless hours debating people that I had strong disagreements with. I've had discussions that lasted for literally years because both sides responded to the points made on both sides. That does not happen here any longer. Not to any significant degree and this thread is a perfect example of it. It's just fear mongering and stupidity being stated and repeated by one side while the other offers actual arguments in response that get mostly ignored entirely and when they do get acknowledged at all, the response is merely a repetition of what has already been rebutted.

Here's how the typical TOL "discussion" goes...

marke (or other idiot): "I'm scared that my neighbors' horse is going to fly into my daughter's bedroom and eat all her draperies in the middle of the night."

Clete: "Umm, marke, horses do not fly and they don't eat draperies."

marke: "It's possible!"

Clete: "No, marke, it isn't. Horses weight about a thousand pounds. They cannot fly!"

marke: "Someone I know told me that his horse ate his draperies."

Clete: "So, because one horse that you've only heard about eating draperies but have never actually witnessed doing so, you're convinced that another horse is so hungry for your daughter's drapes that he's going to spout wings and fly, at night, into your daughter's room just to eat her draperies?"

marke: "I never said it would spout wings. Stop putting words in my mouth. I'm just saying that it's possible and I'm not taking any chances!"

Clete: "How is it possible, marke? Explain how a thousand pound wingless horse is going to fly (in the dark of night no less)! Please, by all means, explain it to me!"

No response.

A day or two days later....

Marke: "I saw that horse looking at my house yesterday. I have a feeling its going to fly into my daughter's room for those drapes at any moment!"


Lather, rinse, repeat.

Waste of time. Even this post was a waste of my time. Old habits die hard, I suppose.

Clete
 

expos4ever

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"VAERS data released today by the CDC showed a total of 358,379 reports of adverse events from all age groups following COVID vaccines, including 5,993 deaths and 29,871 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and June 11, 2021."



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Liar.

The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), founded under the name Dissatisfied Parents Together (DPT) in 1982, is an American 501(c)(3)[1] organization that has been widely criticized as a leading source of fearmongering and misinformation about vaccines.[2][3][4] While NVIC describes itself as the "oldest and largest consumer led organization advocating for the institution of vaccine safety and informed consent protections",[5] it promotes false and misleading information including the discredited claim that vaccines cause autism,[6][7][8] and its campaigns portray vaccination as risky, encouraging people to consider "alternatives."
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
Liar.

The entire point of this website is batting disagreements back and forth and that's exactly what used to take place here and I spent countless hours debating people that I had strong disagreements with. I've had discussions that lasted for literally years because both sides responded to the points made on both sides. That does not happen here any longer. Not to any significant degree and this thread is a perfect example of it. It's just fear mongering and stupidity being stated and repeated by one side while the other offers actual arguments in response that get mostly ignored entirely and when they do get acknowledged at all, the response is merely a repetition of what has already been rebutted.

Here's how the typical TOL "discussion" goes...

marke (or other idiot): "I'm scared that my neighbors' horse is going to fly into my daughter's bedroom and eat all her draperies in the middle of the night."

Clete: "Umm, marke, horses do not fly and they don't eat draperies."

marke: "It's possible!"

Clete: "No, marke, it isn't. Horses weight about a thousand pounds. They cannot fly!"

marke: "Someone I know told me that his horse ate his draperies."

Clete: "So, because one horse that you've only heard about eating draperies but have never actually witnessed doing so, you're convinced that another horse is so hungry for your daughter's drapes that he's going to spout wings and fly, at night, into your daughter's room just to eat her draperies?"

marke: "I never said it would spout wings. Stop putting words in my mouth. I'm just saying that it's possible and I'm not taking any chances!"

Clete: "How is it possible, marke? Explain how a thousand pound wingless horse is going to fly (in the dark of night no less)! Please, by all means, explain it to me!"

No response.

A day or two days later....

Marke: "I saw that horse looking at my house yesterday. I have a feeling its going to fly into my daughter's room for those drapes at any moment!"


Lather, rinse, repeat.

Waste of time. Even this post was a waste of my time. Old habits die hard, I suppose.

Clete
Now you've got me scared of horses : noid:
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
Liar.

There have not been > 15,000 death attributable to the vaccines as determined by qualified medical professionals.

I grant there may well have been this number of vaccine-related deaths as certified by tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist whackjobs.
Oh good

expie is back

yay
 

Gary K

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Liar.

The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), founded under the name Dissatisfied Parents Together (DPT) in 1982, is an American 501(c)(3)[1] organization that has been widely criticized as a leading source of fearmongering and misinformation about vaccines.[2][3][4] While NVIC describes itself as the "oldest and largest consumer led organization advocating for the institution of vaccine safety and informed consent protections",[5] it promotes false and misleading information including the discredited claim that vaccines cause autism,[6][7][8] and its campaigns portray vaccination as risky, encouraging people to consider "alternatives."
Your claims have been debunked. The CDC said for years that they had the proof vaccines do not cause autism. They lost in court when a judge ordered them to produce the evidence of their claim. They could not support their claim in court.

 
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