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When you think your opening up your mind to all the spirits that are in you. All thoughts of wrath from satan. All thoughts of deception from the devil. All good thoughts that help you from your guardian angel.
You are unwittingly still living in the three-tiered universe of ancient times: a big blue dome above us, the spirit world after that and the stars of God above all (and the stars were often seen as angelic beings).

Folks didn't always know how to be accountable for their own actions and blamed "spirits" or "demons" for actions they feared or did not understand. They also blamed meteorological events on an angry God.

If we continue to point to the evil beyond our own hearts, we will reap destruction. This is the framework of war. Because we still lack the imagination (most of us, anyway) to respond to conflict in any way but giving in passively or fighting back aggressively, we are trapped in a situation that will destroy the world.

And we should not blame it on demons or an angry, jealous God.
 

Squeaky

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The God revealed by Jesus.

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You don't know. Well if you cant define it that is strong evidence your on the wrong path.


1 Tim 1:5-6
5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk,
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aikido7

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There were dozens of "false prophets" roaming the countryside during Jesus' time. About two dozen of these folks are named in history--in fact Acts has a passing reference to one of them. They were all put down swiftly by the Romans and a few of them were crucified.

The pagan philosopher Celsius summed it all up by this sarcastic remark:

[These wandering preachers go around saying] "I am God; I am the Son of God; or, I am the Divine Spirit; I have come because the world is perishing, and you, O men, are perishing for your iniquities. But I wish to save you, and you shall see me returning again with heavenly power. Blessed is he who now does me homage. On all the rest I will send down eternal fire, both on cities and on countries. And those who know not the punishments which await. them shall repent and grieve in vain; while those who are faithful to me I will preserve eternally."

The time of Jesus was a time of turmoil, revolution, violence and poverty.
 

Squeaky

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There were dozens of "false prophets" roaming the countryside during Jesus' time. About two dozen of these folks are named in history--in fact Acts has a passing reference to one of them. They were all put down swiftly by the Romans and a few of them were crucified.

The pagan philosopher Celsius summed it all up by this sarcastic remark:

[These wandering preachers go around saying] "I am God; I am the Son of God; or, I am the Divine Spirit; I have come because the world is perishing, and you, O men, are perishing for your iniquities. But I wish to save you, and you shall see me returning again with heavenly power. Blessed is he who now does me homage. On all the rest I will send down eternal fire, both on cities and on countries. And those who know not the punishments which await. them shall repent and grieve in vain; while those who are faithful to me I will preserve eternally."

The time of Jesus was a time of turmoil, revolution, violence and poverty.

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Don't take this the wrong way. But who cares about philosopher Celsius ? He cant get me to heaven. When Jesus is the only way to heaven I cant understand why anybody would quote what a man says. Edify means to build others up with more of the Word(verses). So that they can fight against the wiles of the devil within themselves.

Eph 6:11-17
11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness,
15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God;
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aikido7

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You don't know. Well if you cant define it that is strong evidence your on the wrong path.


1 Tim 1:5-6
5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk,
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Timothy may well be a forgery. Besides, even if you are to include it as one of Paul's authentic letters, it has little to do with Jesus.

The words of Jesus are preserved in the New Testament gospels. Although there are many different theologies, traditions and legends in the text, there is also a bedrock of remembered history passed down by oral tradition.

It is here we need to look for what Jesus said about God.

In Matthew he is recorded to have said "...the Father makes his sun to shine on the good and the evil and sends his rain to fall on the righteous and the unrighteous alike."

He also said "Why call ME good? Only God is good!"

He also said somewhat irritably "Who made me a judge?"

By reading the New Testament carefully, it seems easy to separate the unique voice print and preaching of Jesus from the theology and dogma placed into his mouth by the gospel writers.

As Thomas Jefferson once said about the New Testament, separating the two was like the difference between "diamonds and a dunghill."
 

Squeaky

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Timothy may well be a forgery. Besides, even if you are to include it as one of Paul's authentic letters, it has little to do with Jesus.

The words of Jesus are preserved in the New Testament gospels. Although there are many different theologies, traditions and legends in the text, there is also a bedrock of remembered history passed down by oral tradition.

It is here we need to look for what Jesus said about God.

In Matthew he is recorded to have said "...the Father makes his sun to shine on the good and the evil and sends his rain to fall on the righteous and the unrighteous alike."

He also said "Why call ME good? Only God is good!"

He also said somewhat irritably "Who made me a judge?"

By reading the New Testament carefully, it seems easy to separate the unique voice print and preaching of Jesus from the theology and dogma placed into his mouth by the gospel writers.

As Thomas Jefferson once said about the New Testament, separating the two was like the difference between "diamonds and a dunghill."

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That is pitiful. All Jesus done and said was to lead us and teach us what Godly love is.

1 Tim 1:5-6
5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk,
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aikido7

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That is pitiful. All Jesus done and said was to lead us and teach us what Godly love is.

1 Tim 1:5-6
5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk,
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What is "pitiful" about my remarks? Please be specific.

Did you really mean to indicate that you disagree with me?

Fine.

Then be accountable for that and state it plainly and respectfully.
 

Squeaky

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Timothy may well be a forgery. Besides, even if you are to include it as one of Paul's authentic letters, it has little to do with Jesus.

The words of Jesus are preserved in the New Testament gospels. Although there are many different theologies, traditions and legends in the text, there is also a bedrock of remembered history passed down by oral tradition.

It is here we need to look for what Jesus said about God.




What is "pitiful" about my remarks? Please be specific.

Did you really mean to indicate that you disagree with me?

Fine.

Then be accountable for that and state it plainly and respectfully.

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The whole new testament is Jesus. Every part fits together perfectly.
When you say
forgery. Besides, even if you are to include it as one of Paul's authentic letters, it has little to do with Jesus.

It all has to do with Jesus. Everything Jesus spoke He spoke in parables. The apostles gave the milk understanding of what Jesus said. And they both said to find the Holy Spirit and learn from Him.


Matt 13:34
34 All these things Jesus spoke to the multitude in parables; and without a parable He did not speak to them,
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1 Cor 3:2
2 I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able;
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The Holy Spirit is the only guarantee in the bible. And He only quotes verses that you have believed. And in order for Him to teach you with the new testament you must believe the whole thing.
 

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Well one can turn to God and His Word. Or follow the delusions.
You follow the delusions. And I follow the Word.

II Th 2:10-12
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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You don't know me but you know what I know about Austen. So I think you are very lazy, and stupid, for your response about that. Is it noble to be lazy and stupid? I don't think so. A person can be very familiar with Austen and the Bible at the same time. Austen was; and she gave some of the best reasons why what it said was true--without "quoting" a verse. Most of her lead female characters fell in love with Bible-believing, honest pastors.
 

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You don't know me but you know what I know about Austen. So I think you are very lazy, and stupid, for your response about that. Is it noble to be lazy and stupid? I don't think so. A person can be very familiar with Austen and the Bible at the same time. Austen was; and she gave some of the best reasons why what it said was true--without "quoting" a verse. Most of her lead female characters fell in love with Bible-believing, honest pastors.

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I don't know if you know this. But without quoting a verse for verification and support from the Holy Spirit. One only has a guess. Theology is spiritual theory, and theory is guessing.
 

aikido7

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Squeaky posted:

... The whole new testament is Jesus. Every part fits together perfectly.

No, not really. If you read the New Testament carefully and critically you will discover many different theologies, traditions, accounts passed on by oral transmission, metaphor, myth and legend. And these elements are often contradictory to each other--something we should expect when different inspired authors write of their own experience of Jesus.
 

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Squeaky posted:



No, not really. If you read the New Testament carefully and critically you will discover many different theologies, traditions, accounts passed on by oral transmission, metaphor, myth and legend. And these elements are often contradictory to each other--something we should expect when different inspired authors write of their own experience of Jesus.

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You talk of the deceptions. I'm talking about the only guarantee in the whole bible. The Holy Spirit that only quotes verses.


John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
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2 Cor 5:5
5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
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Do you even know who the Holy Spirit is?
 

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There is only one weapon. The Word (verses).

2 Cor 10:3-5
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh.
4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,
5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,
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Just asking: Are you relying on the written words in the KJV N.T.? Are you saying that those are 'The Word'?

To rely on the written words in the KJV N.T. seems very contrary and disobedient to the Lord Jesus Christ.

John: 17 KJV N.T.
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


In the above revelation, the Lord Jesus confirmed that he could not and did not deliver many things, even to his disciples. In fact the Lord Jesus confirmed that All Truth can come only from the Spirit of Truth after He was crucified and rose to spirit heaven.

Why would you want to deny this revelation from the the Lord Jesus and look backwards to the spoken and written words of the physical, son of man, Lord Jesus?

This is just a question . . . an inquiry.
 

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Just asking: Are you relying on the written words in the KJV N.T.? Are you saying that those are 'The Word'?

To rely on the written words in the KJV N.T. seems very contrary and disobedient to the Lord Jesus Christ.

John: 17 KJV N.T.
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


In the above revelation, the Lord Jesus confirmed that he could not and did not deliver many things, even to his disciples. In fact the Lord Jesus confirmed that All Truth can come only from the Spirit of Truth after He was crucified and rose to spirit heaven.

Why would you want to deny this revelation from the the Lord Jesus and look backwards to the spoken and written words of the physical, son of man, Lord Jesus?

This is just a question . . . an inquiry.

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I think I understand your question. What I discovered when purging my mind of carnality. By submitting to every verse that came into my mind and purging everything else. I found that some of my thoughts were from the devil and some of my thoughts were from my guardian angel. So I started watching what the verses were saying and what principles they had within them. What I found was that the verses supported some of my carnal thoughts. And rejected others. So I contributed the verses that supported to the Holy Spirit backing up my guardian angel. And the negative verses to fighting against the thoughts from the devil. But it was the Holy Spirit who decided and who I followed. It has proven to be the correct thing to do now for 30 years. And all my emotions supported the devil. And all my affections supported my guardian angel. I hope this helps.
 

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FIND THE INNER MAN-CRUSIFY THE OUTER PERSON
(SPIRIT, MIND OF INNER MAN. SOUL, BODY OF INNER MAN)

Col 3:9-10
9 Do not lie to one another, since you have put off the old man with his deeds,
10 and have put on the new man who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him,
1 Pet 4:19
19 Therefore let those who suffer according to the will of God commit their souls to Him in doing good, as to a faithful Creator.
Matt 22:16
16 And they sent to Him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, "Teacher, we know that You are true, and teach the way of God in truth; nor do You care about anyone, for You do not regard the person of men.
Rom 7:22
22 For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man.
Gal 5:24-25
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
John 6:63
63 "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.
John 4:48
48 Then Jesus said to him, "Unless you people see signs and wonders, you will by no means believe."
Matt 12:38-39
38 Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered, saying, "Teacher, we want to see a sign from You."
39 But He answered and said to them, "An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
1 Tim 4:9-11
9 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance.
10 For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe.
11 These things command and teach.
1 Tim 4:13-16
13 Till I come, give attention to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.
14 Do not neglect the gift that is in you, which was given to you by prophecy with the laying on of the hands of the eldership.
15 Meditate on these things; give yourself entirely to them, that your progress may be evident to all.
16 Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you.
1 Pet 4:19
19 Therefore let those who suffer according to the will of God commit their souls to Him in doing good, as to a faithful Creator.
Eph 3:14-19
14 For this reason I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
15 from whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
16 that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with might through His Spirit in the inner man,
17 that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height--
19 to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.
2 Cor 4:16-18
16 Therefore we do not lose heart. Even though our outward man is perishing, yet the inward man is being renewed day by day.
17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, is working for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory,
18 while we do not look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal.
Eph 4:21-24
21 if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus:
22 that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts,
23 and be renewed in the spirit of your mind,
24 and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.
1 Pet 2:4-5
4 Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious,
5 you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
1 Pet 2:11-12
11 Beloved, I beg you as sojourners and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts which war against the soul,
12 having your conduct honorable among the Gentiles, that when they speak against you as evildoers, they may, by your good works which they observe, glorify God in the day of visitation.
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xxxx Your inner man consists of your spirit(the mind of your inner man) and your soul(the body of your inner man). All affections come from your soul and all decisions come from your spirit. Not all ideas but all decisions. All ideas come from the different beings in you. You get one opinion from your guardian angel. And you get one opinion from the devil. Then you choose who to agree with. But if you have the Holy Spirit He will give you a verse to show you who is who.
All your emotions dwell in your outer person (body). All emotions are unclean spirits.


Heb 4:12
12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
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Heb 10:38-39
38 Now the just shall live by faith; but if anyone draws back, my soul has no pleasure in him."
39 But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul.
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Gal 5:17
17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.
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1 Pet 1:3-9
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you,
5 who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
6 In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by various trials,
7 that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ,
8 whom having not seen you love. Though now you do not see Him, yet believing, you rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory,
9 receiving the end of your faith-- the salvation of your souls.
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