Response to post #74 by God's Truth.
“Originally posted y S-word.........Ahh you poor deceived child of that woman who sits on the seven hills of Rome, who claims to be the bride of Christ, but who instead, is the bride of the dead Emperor Constantine.
The Lord says in Revelation 18: 4-8.
Come out of her my people do not share in her sins
You must not share her punishment, her judgement day has come.
For her sins are piled to heaven, and God recalls her evil ways,
She says; “ I am no widow and I will never see the grave.”
Because of that, in just one day disease will strike her down
Plagues and famine she’ll receive, til finally she’ll be burned.
You must pay her back two fold for all that she has done
Fill her cup as she filled yours, but make it twice as strong.
For all the glory she has claimed and all her luxury,
Will be repaid this very day, with pain and misery.
God’s Truth wrote..........Be careful how you judge, for you are exposing who you are and what you do. I know now to what and whom I am debating.
S-word.........You neither know ‘Who I Am’ nor the Christ who was taken to the throne of the ‘MOST HIGH’where he was chosen as his successor, before being anointed and traslated from a physical body to a spiritual body in order that he should never experience death.
The Christ, who was chosen to serve God before the body of Adam into all eternity. The only exception of all mankind to have ascended into heaven and descended in the days of Abraham, who chose him as his God.
Originally Posted by S-word
Elizabeth, the mother of John the Baptist, and Hanna, the mother of Mary were sisters, making John and Mary first cousins.
John, who was chosen by the “Light of Man” the controlling personality within the Logos, to Baptise with water, which was symbolic of the great flood, when the old body of Adam was submerged in water and the new body of Enoch, ‘The Anointed One=The Christ’ arose.
God’s Truth wrote..........Speak according to the Holy Bible. Show scripture for what you say.
S-word..........John 1:32-34New International Version (NIV) 32 "Then John gave this testimony: “I saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on him. 33 "And I myself did not know him, but the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘The 'MAN' on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is the one who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’ 34 "I have seen and I testify that this is God’s Chosen One.”
Now we know from Matthew 3: 13-14, that John knew that his cousins son, ‘Jesus’ was greater than he. 13 Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptised by John. 14 But John tried to deter him, saying, “I need to be baptised by you, and yet you come to me.”
But it was not until after he had baptised Jesus, and had seen the spirit descend upon him in the form of a dove, and heard the heavenly voice say, “You are my son, (My chosen heir and successor) ‘THIS DAY’ I have begotten thee, or THIS DAY’ I have become your Father,” that John knew that Jesus was God’s CHOSEN one.
Originally Posted by S-word
John knew that his cousins son ‘Jesus’ was greater than he, and at first, refused to baptise him, but he did not know at that time, that Jesus was the one chosen by the “Light of Man” who told John that the man on whom he saw the spirit descend upon in bodily form was the one he had chosen to baptise with that spirit, which he was to receive. And it was only after John had baptised his cousin's son that he saw the spirit descend upon Jesus.
If John had believed that his cousin Mary was an ever virgin, and that Jesus was born without male semen having been introduced into her dormant female egg, something that has never been known to have happened, do you think that he would have doubted that Jesus was the chosen Messiah? But he did. While in prison awaiting his execution, he sent his disciples to ask Jesus, if he was really the one, or if they had to wait for another.
God’s Truth wrote.........You act as if they all lived together and you act as if Mary and Joseph told everyone their business. You think the writers of the New Testament scriptures were idiots and did not think of things, while they were making it up, according to you?
S-word..........Well we certainly know that John knew that his second cousin Jesus was far greater than he, John even believed that he was not worthy enough to Baptise him, and this was before he knew that he was the CHOSEN one of God.
The Gospel authors were not idiots as you insinuate, they spoke the truth. It was the Roman church of Emperor Constantine, who has twisted and distorted the sciptures in her attempt to deceive the gullible such as yourself, into beleiving that Jesus was not of the seed of Adam, and was not born physically as are all the descendants of Adam.
Originally Posted by S-word
If Jesus had been born of a pure virgin, this would have been the greatest miracle of all, as being raised from the dead was old hat, Elijah had done it and his successor Elisha had done it also .
God’s Truth wrote.........Being raised from the dead is easier to prove than being born of a virgin. You have no sense.
S-word...........How many people in the scriptures have been said to have been raised from the dead? And how many have been said to have been born of a perpetual virgin? Something that is not scriptural, as the Greek term 'Parthenos' does not mean 'VIRGIN' as you have been deceived into believing.
Originally Posted by S-word
But Mark, who is believed to have been Mark the son of Peter, and John the beloved disciple of Jesus, Both ignore the physical birth of Jesus as being totally irrelevant, and begin their accounts of the salvation, with the spiritual birth of Jesus, when the spirit of the lord descended upon Jesus in the form of a dove as the heavenly voice was heard to say; “You are my son (My chosen heir and successor) this day I have begotten thee---This day I have become your Father.”
Matthew is mentioned in Matthew 9:9 and Matthew 10:3 as a publican who, while sitting at the "receipt of custom" in Capernaum, was called to follow Jesus. And Matthew simply confirms that Jesus was the fulfilment of the Lords prophecy through his prophet Isaiah, who said than an Almah=a young unmarried woman who is pregnant will bear a son, who would be the vessel in which the Lord would reveal himself to the world, the Emmanuel.
But your mother church continues the lie, by saying that a virgin would bear that child, when they have been forced to admit, that Isaiah never did say that. Read Isaiah 7: 14.
God’s truth wrote...........You defeat yourself with your own argument. What is so miraculous about a young married woman having a child?
S-word.............The emphases is not on the fact that an unmarried woman would bear a child, but that a child conceived out of wedlock, would be chosen as the earthy host body, through which the Lord would reveal himself to the world.
For when the anointed one was about to come into the world, he said, “Sacrifices and burnt offerings you did not want, but a body you have prepared for me, etc.”That body was the man Jesus, who, before he was given divine glory by the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, See Acts 3: 13; Hebrew 5: 7-10; “In his life on earth Jesus made his prayers and requests with loud cries and tears to God who could save him from death. Because he was humble and devoted, God heard him. But even though he was 'A' son of God, (Not God’s Son, or THE son of God, but A son of God, check it out in the Appendix of Strong’s Concordance, or The King James, Amplified, or The Revised Standard translations. all Israelites are sons of God according to God’s word, see Psalms 82: 6; ‘You are gods,’ I said; ‘all of you are sons of the Most High.’) HE learned through suffering to be obedient, when he was made perfect (through his obedience, and could then be used as the host body through which our God, ‘The Son of Man’ could then revealed himself, through the life, the miracles and the words that would be seen and heard through his obedient servant and earthy image, who did, nor spoke one word on his own authority other than that which he was commanded by the Lord our saviour.) The one who God had prepared for his heavenly anointed one, then became the source through whom salvation could be gained from our Lord God and saviour, who rose Jesus from death and will raise all those, who are united to him also.
Originally Posted by S-word
And Luke reveals that Jesus was the biological son of Mary and her half brother Joseph who were both sired by Alexander Helios=Heli.
But I realise that your mother church has deceived you with her lies, that your head is so mixed up and set as hard as concrete, that one would have to use a sledge hammer to shatter that conglomerate and let the light of truth shine in.
God’s Truth wrote..........I believe that God the creator of everything knows how to preserve His Word, and He did, in the Holy Bible.
S-word.........He certainly did, and all who study the Holy Scriptures and not the lying teachings of the worthless shepherd, can easily see through the lies and corruptions that have been introduced by your mother church.
