ECT If MAD is False What Does Hebrews 6:4-6 Mean for Us?

Danoh

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The only people in Scripture with the authority to judge the Church are the Lord, His Apostles, and the bishops.

All three of whom went by Scripture, and the latter of the two of whom all died out in the first century.

Thus, the Lord's Words thru Paul, just before he put his pen down...

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
 

Nihilo

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All three of whom went by Scripture, and the latter of the two of whom all died out in the first century.

Thus, the Lord's Words thru Paul, just before he put his pen down...

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
'Interesting that you'd take passages of Scripture, addressed to a bishop, and claim it as your own, you therefore non-dispensational clown. Because that's not in keeping with the dispensational approach to reading and interpreting Scripture you non-dispensational clown. You should, if you care what Paul wrote to a bishop or to the bishopric in general, you should just listen to them. AMR emoticon. :zakath: 2nd Timothy was not written to you. :zakath:
 

DAN P

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All three of whom went by Scripture, and the latter of the two of whom all died out in the first century.

Thus, the Lord's Words thru Paul, just before he put his pen down...

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.


Hi and you have NEVER read 1Cor 5:12 and says , For what ( is it ) to me to also JUDGE the lone's outside ? Do you not Judge the ONES WITHIN !!

Yes we do JUDGE those WITHIN , and in verse 13 God JUDGES the ones outside !!

Know your bible FIRST !!

dan p
 

Lazy afternoon

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Hi and you have NEVER read 1Cor 5:12 and says , For what ( is it ) to me to also JUDGE the lone's outside ? Do you not Judge the ONES WITHIN !!

Yes we do JUDGE those WITHIN , and in verse 13 God JUDGES the ones outside !!

Know your bible FIRST !!

dan p

The order of that judging in an assembly is given in the bible, and it is not done by individuals with opinions on a message board.

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andyc

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For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
-Hebrews 6:4-6

It means what it says :doh:
 

Danoh

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'Interesting that you'd take passages of Scripture, addressed to a bishop, and claim it as your own, you therefore non-dispensational clown. Because that's not in keeping with the dispensational approach to reading and interpreting Scripture you non-dispensational clown. You should, if you care what Paul wrote to a bishop or to the bishopric in general, you should just listen to them. AMR emoticon. :zakath: 2nd Timothy was not written to you. :zakath:

Given his mention in 1 Tim. 3:1 "That if a man desires the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work" common sense would dictate that such an individual would at least look into the responsibilities it entails.

Studying those epistles would be helpful in determining what those responsibilities are.

But obviously you yourself have at least read them.

Once more, your above is nothing more than the asertions of an incompetent.

But then again, I don't subscribe to your fool traditions; parrot.
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Danoh

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No, not much. It's actually very, very Protestant and non-Catholic of me to search the scriptures.

Spoken like the true parrot of the traditions of men you continue to prove yourself having been rendered mindless by.

:doh:
 

Danoh

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It means what it says :doh:

The writer is contrasting the witness of those who rejected the signs of their world to come (chapter 2) with the witness of the faithful he is writing about said world to come to.

Those who rejected it saw its witness; the signs and all the rest; even partaking of the healings, and so on, but rejected then rejected it anyway; having never believed it.

Sort of like how the Lord had also lamented that they wanted the miracles but not their purpose - the calling them back to the God of their fathers that the miracles had been a means of drawing them all back to.
 

Interplanner

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The writer is contrasting the witness of those who rejected the signs of their world to come (chapter 2) with the witness of the faithful he is writing about said world to come to.

Those who rejected it saw its witness; the signs and all the rest; even partaking of the healings, and so on, but rejected then rejected it anyway; having never believed it.

Sort of like how the Lord had also lamented that they wanted the miracles but not their purpose - the calling them back to the God of their fathers that the miracles had been a means of drawing them all back to.



This is pretty good, but said in a complicated way. What is the 'witness' of a person who rejects a sign?
 

Interplanner

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ONE of your BIGGEST problems is, not knowing how to "Rightly Divide" the written word of God. You're a Pentecostal/Charismatic who lives by his emotions rather than your common sense and discernment.



The expression 'rightly divide' in Tim does not mean what you are doing here. That use of that verse is one of the greatest disasters of understanding out there. As though what we are supposed to look for is compartment after compartment of 2P2P.
 

andyc

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ONE of your BIGGEST problems is, not knowing how to "Rightly Divide" the written word of God. You're a Pentecostal/Charismatic who lives by his emotions rather than your common sense and discernment.

So you think scripture doesn't mean what it says, huh?
Well we knew that.
 

andyc

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The writer is contrasting the witness of those who rejected the signs of their world to come (chapter 2) with the witness of the faithful he is writing about said world to come to.

Those who rejected it saw its witness; the signs and all the rest; even partaking of the healings, and so on, but rejected then rejected it anyway; having never believed it.

Sort of like how the Lord had also lamented that they wanted the miracles but not their purpose - the calling them back to the God of their fathers that the miracles had been a means of drawing them all back to.

In Heb 6:4-6 he's talking about rejecting salvation, and the consequences.
 
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