How to Receive the Holy Spirit

Robert Pate

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Those Christ died for, His Sheep John 10:11, 15, are made Righteous by His One act of obedience, not theirs. In the same way, they were made sinners by Adam's disobedience, not theirs:

Rom. 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

That word righteous is the Gr. word dikaios, and means: righteous, observing divine laws A. in a wide sense, upright, righteous, virtuous, keeping the commands of God

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=G1342&t=KJV

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No one is righteous because all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, Romans 3:23.

The righteousness of Christ is to the Christians account. He does not posses righteousness in this life.

In God's eyes he is without sin. In his own eyes and in the eyes of others he is a sinner.
 

Epoisses

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Do you believe that everyone Christ died for are saved from their sins and eternal death?

You're confusing the atonement (work of Christ on the cross) and the personal experience of Salvation (work of Christ in the life of the believer). Or the objective and subjective aspect of the gospel.
 

Nanja

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No one is righteous because all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, Romans 3:23.

The righteousness of Christ is to the Christians account. He does not posses righteousness in this life.

In God's eyes he is without sin. In his own eyes and in the eyes of others he is a sinner.


Of themselves, none are Righteous, but as I have shown:

Those Christ died for, His Sheep John 10:11, 15, are made Righteous by His One act of obedience, not theirs. In the same way, they were made sinners by Adam's disobedience, not theirs:

Rom. 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

That word righteous is the Gr. word dikaios, and means: righteous, observing divine laws A. in a wide sense, upright, righteous, virtuous, keeping the commands of God

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang...gs=G1342&t=KJV


John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

John 3:36
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Christ did not die for these, the goats. They are condemned already and shall permanently remain under the Wrath of God Mat. 25:33; 41!


Praise the Lord Dan. 4:35!

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beloved57

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You're confusing the atonement (work of Christ on the cross) and the personal experience of Salvation (work of Christ in the life of the believer). Or the objective and subjective aspect of the gospel.
Are you going to answer the question?
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Paul said to the Galatians, "This only would I learn of you, Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law (because you did something) or by the hearing of faith?" (hearing and believing the Gospel) Galatians 3:2.

I have noticed on the forum that Calvinist, Catholics and others avoid the question of how we receive the Holy Spirit, like it is some sort of sinful secret. The Bible makes it very clear that the Holy Spirit is only given to those who hear and believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ. On the day of Pentecost they came to know Christ as their savior by the thousands because Peter preached the Gospel, Acts 2:41

Paul said, "So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God" (the Gospel) Romans 10:17.

Calvinist don't really want to talk about how they received the Holy Spirit because they don't have the Holy Spirit. They apparently believe that they just woke up one morning and to their amazement they discover that they had been zapped with the Holy Spirit.

Catholics are little more subtle about how they received the Holy Spirit. They apparently believe that some time after baptism into the Catholic church they receive the Holy Spirit. You don't have to hear or believe anything.

The Bible teaches that if you don't have the Holy Spirit you do not belong to God. The Holy Spirit is God's identifying mark of ownership. God knows who are his by their Spirit. We hear the Gospel, we believe the Gospel and we receive the Holy Spirit.

"That we should be to the praise of his glory, WHO FIRST TRUSTED IN CHRIST. In whom you also trusted after you heard the word of truth, THE GOSPEL OF YOUR SALVATION: in whom after that you believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise" Ephesians 1:12, 13.

There it is. We hear the Gospel and trust in Christ. When we hear the Gospel and believe we are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise and now belong to God. Does the Holy Spirit make us holy? No, we only receive the "First fruits" of the Spirit, which is the down payment of the Spirit, Romans 8:23. We receive enough of the Holy Spirit to make us witnesses for Christ and his Gospel, but not enough to make us holy and without sin.

Excellent post.
 

TulipBee

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God knew the elects before they were born. The holy spirit was involved during that time. A very long time ago.
 

Robert Pate

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God electing himself?

God does nothing outside of Jesus Christ when it comes to the salvation of man.

"According as he has chosen us in him (Jesus Christ) before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love" Ephesians 1:4.

The only way that you can be holy and without blame before him in love is to be "In Christ".

God saw all of humanity in his Son Jesus Christ before the foundation of the world, Hebrews 4:3.

Jesus is the Lamb of God that was slain from the foundation of the world, Revelation 13:8.
 

TulipBee

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God does nothing outside of Jesus Christ when it comes to the salvation of man.

"According as he has chosen us in him (Jesus Christ) before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love" Ephesians 1:4.

The only way that you can be holy and without blame before him in love is to be "In Christ".

God saw all of humanity in his Son Jesus Christ before the foundation of the world, Hebrews 4:3.

Jesus is the Lamb of God that was slain from the foundation of the world, Revelation 13:8.
God gives his elects to Jesus. Jesus died for the ones given to him. God didn't give Jesus goats.
 

Robert Pate

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God gives his elects to Jesus. Jesus died for the ones given to him. God didn't give Jesus goats.

HOGWASH!

The Bible clearly says that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2 also 1 John 4:14.

Salvation has been provided for everyone, Hebrews 2:9.

The whole world has been reconciled to God by Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:19.

You are Gospel illiterate.
 

TulipBee

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HOGWASH!

The Bible clearly says that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2 also 1 John 4:14.

Salvation has been provided for everyone, Hebrews 2:9.

The whole world has been reconciled to God by Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:19.

You are Gospel illiterate.
You say God so good that he didn't bring the flood that killed millions.
 

Epoisses

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You say God so good that he didn't bring the flood that killed millions.

What does that have to do with Jesus being the savior of the world? The mighty Clavinists don't even believe in John 3:17!! Just rank unbelievers masquerading as believers.
 

TulipBee

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What does that have to do with Jesus being the savior of the world? The mighty Clavinists don't even believe in John 3:17!! Just rank unbelievers masquerading as believers.
Pate claims God doesn't do justice cause pate claims God isn't the judge of him or anyone. Pate claim God has no control. Calvinists believe in the complete 66 book bible. You made that up.
 

Epoisses

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Pate claims God doesn't do justice cause pate claims God isn't the judge of him or anyone. Pate claim God has no control. Calvinists believe in the complete 66 book bible. You made that up.

Do you believe that Jesus is the savior of the world?
 

Robert Pate

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God gives his elects to Jesus. Jesus died for the ones given to him. God didn't give Jesus goats.

There are several scriptures that say Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2 also 1 John 4:14.

You ignore those scriptures like they are not even in the bible.
 
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