How I KNOW it is God's will to heal all who desire it
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Signs and wonders are for those who believe. When Paul was preaching he perceived a certain man had FAITH to be healed and he told him to stand up.
Tongues are for sign to the Jews, for the church they are given for edification. That is why interpretation is given to the gentile church but we do not see interpretation given to the Jewish church.
We see no evidence that Paul ever preached in tongues to foreigners, his counsel is that it is better in the assembly to speak five words in language that people understood than to speak in tongues except when interpretation is given.
If you do not minister yourself in the gift of the Holy Ghost by what power then do you minister...human wisdom?
What was Paul's completed revelation?
Do you believe it?
1 Peter 2:24 King James Version (KJV)
24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
By the way, did you notice that Peter uses the past tense, done deal. It's part of the atonement.
Isaiah 53:3-5 King James Version (KJV)
3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
Hiya, Totten.
I totally agree with you that Jesus never turned anyone away who came to Him for healing. He healed them all.
I do take issue with the idea of "desire it", however. Seems to me that God does not respond to want or need, but instead responds only to faith. Maybe it's just me, but 'desire it' sounds like wanting.
God bless.
Thanks....OK but I am assuming the desiring one is presenting themselves to Christ for healing.
Healing is part of salvation, no Jew would have understood salvation in any other way. To be saved means to be made every whit whole. Delivered from evil.
No this thread I about healing specifically, not about the gifts.
Himself bare our sins
Himself bare our sicknesses and carried our diseases.
Healing was bought and paid for at the cross.
I do not believe in human healers any more than I believe in human saviours, You were healed at the cross.
I do believe in laying hands on the sick...but the healing comes from God.
Levolor
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Perhaps so. Could also be presenting themselves upon the altar of self while 'thinking' they are presenting themselves to Christ. God knows.
Lon
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In 2 Kings 20, Hezekiah's life was prolonged, but it was no a permanent solution. If all it requires if faith, we'd see Christians living to at least 120. That, and no matter the faith, none of the disciples survived axes.
It is COMPLETELY within the will and mercies of God, where one is healed or not. According to this world, I am an alien.
It is COMPLETELY within the will and mercies of God, where one is healed or not. According to this world, I am an alien.
Hez was dying by reason of a boil the boil was healed. You mean Christians would fare as well under the magnificently more glorious gospel of grace as the Jews did under the fading ministration of the law.
We are speaking about sickness and disease not the persecutions of men. We do not look to escape the cross.
Salvation as well as healing is COMPLETELY within the will and mercies of God, not all are saved, all who come to Christ are saved.
You are saying God is a chance deal, finicky. God is not finicky He works according to eternal counsels.
You have to show a single instance of somebody who came to Christ [who IS the will of God] for healing but who was sent away.
Healed them ALL . He saves ALL who come to Him for salvation "Himself bare our sins"
His will is to heal ALL who come to Him for healing "Himself bare our sickness"
Nobody questions, nobody throws an apopolectic fit, or like Naaman go into a rage when you say Christ will save ALL who come to Him in faith. "Himself bare our sins" that settles it.
But when you speak about healing 1,000 voices of doubt, anger and disbelief are raised against it.
....perhaps that is why people believe one half of the gospel but not the other half.
heir
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thrice!
Don't need to even read it (so I wont). You're theological studies are stunted and you seek the sensational as a motive of faith.
I am sensational
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You are very confused about the scripture and fail put everything in its proper place.
When the kingdom of heaven comes to earth, there will be healing for everyone (just like there was in Acts 5:16 where they healed EVERYONE).
During this currently dispensation, Gods grace is sufficient for a believer (just like God told Paul).
If you don't rightly divide the Word of Truth, you'll make a confused mess of the whole thing.
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I would be great if just once in a while you said something sensible.
Why isn't everyone healed?
Sometimes he heals. Sometimes he doesn't heal. Why is that to your mind? Lk 5:12-15
Do saved people also get sick and die?
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