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You can't get around it. Jesus came and gave us new rules and guidelines for the new law. The new law is the old law with some changes.
Have you been reconciled unto God by Jesus Christ?
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You can't get around it. Jesus came and gave us new rules and guidelines for the new law. The new law is the old law with some changes.
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Paul was explaining what it was like for HIM and ANYONE ELSE under the old law WITHOUT FAITH.
Where does it say that? When you are confronted with truth you make things up that are not in the Bible.
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If you think that it is because you are not considering what I say carefully enough.
First you must realize that the Jews who did have faith in God and were under the old law---they were baptized with John's baptism of repentance and they heard and understood that Jesus' words were God's words. They had faith in Jesus and that means they believed him and obeyed.
So now when Paul speaks about people under the old law and not obeying, it is because they did not have faith. Those Jews who did not have faith, like Paul did not, they were CUT OFF AND HARDENED.
Paul speaks about those under the old law as NOT doing anything good and only evil. Do you think all those under the old law who had faith did nothing good and ONLY did EVIL ALL THE TIME?
We are not in Christ if we disregard His word like you are doing over and over.
The law and the commandments that Jesus taught have been abolished, Ephesians 2:15.
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The commandments Jesus taught are abolished you say.
You should be so afraid.
1 Peter 1:25 but the word of the Lord endures forever." And this is the word that was preached to you.
Hebrews 6:5
who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age--
1 Peter 1:12
It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves but you, when they foretold the things now announced by those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things.
It seems you can't repent of your false teachings in this life about Jesus and you saying what Jesus taught is abolished, but can you ask Jesus to forgive you when you stand before him one day?
Who can utter such evilness that you have and think you preach truth is beyond disgusting.
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You disregard Jesus' words in other ways yourself.
Paul is the one that said that the law had been abolished. I was just quoting Paul.
Your problem is that you don't believe Paul. You are in conflict with Paul, not me. Paul will sit in judgment on you in the judgment.
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You are the one who makes Paul the greatest sinner still.
Through your misunderstandings of what Paul says, you make Paul abolishing the words of Jesus Christ!
Paul was not ashamed of his sinnerhood. He even referred to himself as, "The Chief of Sinners" 1 Timothy 1:15. You can't figure that out can you? Before Paul was a Christian he was a Pharisee. He said that his life as Pharisee was blameless. After Paul was saved he was indwelt with the Holy Spirit. It is the Holy Spirit that convicts us that we are sinners. You apparently are not indwelt with the Holy Spirit because you seem to think that you are without sin. John says that you are deceiving yourself, 1 John 1:8.
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You are so lost and ensnared. Paul said he was the worst of sinners before he was saved not after he was saved. After he was saved he spoke about the bad person he used to be.
Before Paul was saved he was a Pharisee, Acts 26:5, Philippians 3:5 And was a very good one, Philippians 3:6. Hardly a wicked sinner as you think.
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Are you kidding? When Paul was a Pharisee, he had men and women dragged out of their homes and beat and threw them in prison to be beat more and then killed.
He did that in ignorance. He thought that he was doing God's will. But he saw himself as a blameless Pharisee.
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You said before that he did do right.
You are like Paul in that you think you are doing right and you are doing wrong.
As a Pharisee Paul saw himself as blameless.
As a Christian Paul saw himself as the "Chief of Sinners" 1 Timothy 1:15.
The reason that Paul saw himself as the "Chief of Sinners" is because he was indwelt with the Holy Spirit that convicts of sin.
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Paul, after being saved and looking back to when he was a Pharisee, he realized he was the chief of sinners.
A saved person is not convicted. You think Paul saw himself as a chief sinner even after he was saved is a gross negligence of the truth.
We are called to live our lives before God as sinners, saved sinners.
You are making yourself out to be a hypocrite, Romans 3:10.
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You are in grave error. We are not to see ourselves as sinners in Christ.
No such thing.