God says that He is not a Trinity

[oatmeal]

You made that up.

Scripture uses the title or name if you prefer, "the Holy Spirit" in reference to God who is spirit and holy.

Since God is the Father of the lord Jesus Christ and Luke 1:35 tells us that the Holy Spirit came upon Mary, we must conclude that the Father is the Holy Spirit.

 

[jamie]

Since God is able of stones to make children of Abraham, who is their father and who is their mother?

"Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood." (1 Peter 2:4-5)

 

[CherubRam]

Elohim is a NOUN, dunce. :dunce:
:mock: What, is English your "second language"?

Elohim has taken his place in the divine council;
in the midst of the elohim he holds judgment: - Psalm 82:1 ESV


אֱלֹהִים ʼĕlôhîym
noun
a name for God used frequently in the Hebrew Bible.

noun
noun/
nounGrammar
noun: noun; plural noun: nouns; noun: common noun; plural noun: common nouns; noun: proper noun; plural noun: proper nouns

a word (other than a pronoun) used to identify any of a class of people, places, or things common noun, or to name a particular one of these proper noun.

Elohiym is not always a proper-noun.

prop·er noun
ˈpräpər noun/
noun
noun: proper noun; plural noun: proper nouns; noun: proper name; plural noun: proper names

a name used for an individual person, place, or organization, spelled with initial capital letters, e.g., Larry, Mexico, and Boston Red Sox.

 

[Nihilo]

Scripture uses the title or name if you prefer, "the Holy Spirit" in reference to God who is spirit and holy.

Made up.

Since God is the Father of the lord Jesus Christ and Luke 1:35 tells us that the Holy Spirit came upon Mary, we must conclude that the Father is the Holy Spirit.

And then it makes PERFECT sense why we would be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Father. You complete PINHEAD.

 

[Nihilo]

Give up the non-Trinity stuff. You're just a stubborn idiot, all of you. Give up. The way to stop being a stubborn idiot, is the only way to stop being an idiot; stop being stubborn. You're wrong.

 

[CherubRam]

You made that up.

[FONT=&quot]The Holy Spirit is a manifestation of Yahwah Himself and not a third person. God is Holy and He is a Spirit. There are more scriptures that go with these. Selah
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

Leviticus 24:16
anyone who blasphemes the name of Yahwah must be put to death.


Matthew 12:31
And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.


John 4:24
God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."


Genesis 1:2
Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.


Psalm 51:11
Do not cast me from your presence or take your Holy Spirit from me.


Joshua 24:19
Joshua said to the people, "You are not able to serve Yahwah. He is a holy God; he is a jealous God. He will not forgive your rebellion and your sins.


1 Samuel 6:20
and the men of Beth Shemesh asked, "Who can stand in the presence of Yahwah, this holy God? To whom will the ark go up from here?"


Isaiah 5:16
But Yahwah Almighty will be exalted by his justice, and the holy God will show himself holy by his righteousness.


Psalm 99:3
Let them praise your great and awesome name— he is holy.


Psalm 99:5
Exalt Yahwah our God and worship at his footstool; he is holy.


Psalm 99:9
Exalt Yahwah our God and worship at his holy mountain, for Yahwah our God is holy.


Isaiah 57:15
For this is what the high and lofty One says— he who lives forever, whose name is holy:


[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Isaiah 63:10[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
Yet they rebelled and grieved his Holy Spirit. So he turned and became their enemy and he himself fought against them.
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Isaiah 63:11[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
Then his people recalled the days of old, the days of Moses and his people— where is he who brought them through the sea, with the shepherd of his flock? Where is he who set his Holy Spirit among them,
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]1 Thessalonians 4:8[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
Therefore, anyone who rejects this instruction does not reject a human being but God, the very God who gives you his Holy Spirit.
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Genesis 6:3[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal ; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”


[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Isaiah 30:1[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
“Woe to the obstinate children,” declares the LORD, “to those who carry out plans that are not mine, forming an alliance, but not by my Spirit, heaping sin upon sin;


[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Isaiah 42:1[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
“Here is my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will bring justice to the nations.
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Isaiah 44:3[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
For I will pour water on the thirsty land, and streams on the dry ground; I will pour out my Spirit on your offspring, and my blessing on your descendants.
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Isaiah 59:21[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
“As for me, this is my covenant with them,” says the LORD. “My Spirit, who is on you, will not depart from you, and my words that I have put in your mouth will always be on your lips, on the lips of your children and on the lips of their descendants—from this time on and forever,” says the LORD.
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Ezekiel 36:27[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Ezekiel 37:14[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the LORD have spoken, and I have done it, declares the LORD.’”
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Ezekiel 39:29[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the people of Israel, declares the Sovereign LORD.”
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Joel 2:28[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
“And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions.
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Joel 2:29[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days.
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Haggai 2:5[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
‘This is what I covenanted with you when you came out of Egypt. And my Spirit remains among you. Do not fear.’
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Zechariah 4:6[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
So he said to me, “This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the LORD Almighty.
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Zechariah 6:8[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
Then he called to me, “Look, those going toward the north country have given my Spirit rest in the land of the north.”
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Numbers 11:29[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
But Moses replied, “Are you jealous for my sake? I wish that all the LORD’s people were prophets and that the LORD would put his Spirit on them!”
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Job 34:14[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
If it were his intention and he withdrew his spirit and breath,
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Isaiah 34:16[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
Look in the scroll of the LORD and read: None of these will be missing, not one will lack her mate. For it is his mouth that has given the order, and his Spirit will gather them together.
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Isaiah 48:16[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
“Come near me and listen to this: “From the first announcement I have not spoken in secret; at the time it happens, I am there.” And now the Sovereign LORD has sent me, endowed with his Spirit.
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Zechariah 7:12[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
They made their hearts as hard as flint and would not listen to the law or to the words that the LORD Almighty had sent by his Spirit through the earlier prophets. So the LORD Almighty was very angry.
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Romans 8:11[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]1 Corinthians 2:10[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]2 Corinthians 1:22[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Galatians 3:5[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
So again I ask, does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your believing what you heard?[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Ephesians 2:22[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Ephesians 3:16[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being,
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Philippians 3:3[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
For it is we who are the circumcision, we who serve God by his Spirit, who boast in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh—
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]1 John 4:13[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
This is how we know that we live in him and he in us: He has given us of his Spirit.
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]


[/FONT]

 

[CherubRam]

Elohim is a NOUN, dunce. :dunce:
:mock: What, is English your "second language"?

Elohim has taken his place in the divine council;
in the midst of the elohim he holds judgment: - Psalm 82:1 ESV


אֱלֹהִים ʼĕlôhîym
noun
a name for God used frequently in the Hebrew Bible.

Psalm 82
A psalm of Asaph.

1. (God / Elohiym) presides in the great assembly;
he renders judgment among the (“gods / elohiym”):

 

[oatmeal]

"Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood." (1 Peter 2:4-5)

So nice verse.

So how about an answer to my question?

If God did make children of Abraham out of stones, what would they be?

Let's add this, God made them, so are they

1. stones

2. children of Abraham

3. children of God seeing that God made them.

Please note in your verse the figure of speech simile.

Simile is a figure of speech of comparison by using the word like or as.

Simile being a figure of speech, the words are therefore not literal, but figurative.

"as living stones" is not the same as "are living stones"

So could you be so kind as to answer my latest question?

 

[oatmeal]

[FONT="]The Holy Spirit is a manifestation of Yahwah Himself and not a third person. God is Holy and He is a Spirit. There are more scriptures that go with these. Selah
[/FONT][/B][FONT="]

Leviticus 24:16
anyone who blasphemes the name of Yahwah must be put to death.


Matthew 12:31
And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.


John 4:24
God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."


Genesis 1:2
Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.


Psalm 51:11
Do not cast me from your presence or take your Holy Spirit from me.


Joshua 24:19
Joshua said to the people, "You are not able to serve Yahwah. He is a holy God; he is a jealous God. He will not forgive your rebellion and your sins.


1 Samuel 6:20
and the men of Beth Shemesh asked, "Who can stand in the presence of Yahwah, this holy God? To whom will the ark go up from here?"


Isaiah 5:16
But Yahwah Almighty will be exalted by his justice, and the holy God will show himself holy by his righteousness.


Psalm 99:3
Let them praise your great and awesome name— he is holy.


Psalm 99:5
Exalt Yahwah our God and worship at his footstool; he is holy.


Psalm 99:9
Exalt Yahwah our God and worship at his holy mountain, for Yahwah our God is holy.


Isaiah 57:15
For this is what the high and lofty One says— he who lives forever, whose name is holy:


[/FONT][FONT="]Isaiah 63:10[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
Yet they rebelled and grieved his Holy Spirit. So he turned and became their enemy and he himself fought against them.
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+63:11&version=NIV"][FONT="]Isaiah 63:11[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
Then his people recalled the days of old, the days of Moses and his people— where is he who brought them through the sea, with the shepherd of his flock? Where is he who set his Holy Spirit among them,
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Thessalonians+4:8&version=NIV"][FONT="]1 Thessalonians 4:8[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
Therefore, anyone who rejects this instruction does not reject a human being but God, the very God who gives you his Holy Spirit.
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+6:3&version=NIV"][FONT="]Genesis 6:3[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal ; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”


[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+30:1&version=NIV"][FONT="]Isaiah 30:1[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
“Woe to the obstinate children,” declares the LORD, “to those who carry out plans that are not mine, forming an alliance, but not by my Spirit, heaping sin upon sin;


[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+42:1&version=NIV"][FONT="]Isaiah 42:1[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
“Here is my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will bring justice to the nations.
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+44:3&version=NIV"][FONT="]Isaiah 44:3[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
For I will pour water on the thirsty land, and streams on the dry ground; I will pour out my Spirit on your offspring, and my blessing on your descendants.
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+59:21&version=NIV"][FONT="]Isaiah 59:21[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
“As for me, this is my covenant with them,” says the LORD. “My Spirit, who is on you, will not depart from you, and my words that I have put in your mouth will always be on your lips, on the lips of your children and on the lips of their descendants—from this time on and forever,” says the LORD.
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+36:27&version=NIV"][FONT="]Ezekiel 36:27[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+37:14&version=NIV"][FONT="]Ezekiel 37:14[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the LORD have spoken, and I have done it, declares the LORD.’”
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+39:29&version=NIV"][FONT="]Ezekiel 39:29[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the people of Israel, declares the Sovereign LORD.”
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joel+2:28&version=NIV"][FONT="]Joel 2:28[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
“And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions.
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joel+2:29&version=NIV"][FONT="]Joel 2:29[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days.
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Haggai+2:5&version=NIV"][FONT="]Haggai 2:5[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
‘This is what I covenanted with you when you came out of Egypt. And my Spirit remains among you. Do not fear.’
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Zechariah+4:6&version=NIV"][FONT="]Zechariah 4:6[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
So he said to me, “This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the LORD Almighty.
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Zechariah+6:8&version=NIV"][FONT="]Zechariah 6:8[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
Then he called to me, “Look, those going toward the north country have given my Spirit rest in the land of the north.”
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+11:29&version=NIV"][FONT="]Numbers 11:29[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
But Moses replied, “Are you jealous for my sake? I wish that all the LORD’s people were prophets and that the LORD would put his Spirit on them!”
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job+34:14&version=NIV"][FONT="]Job 34:14[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
If it were his intention and he withdrew his spirit and breath,
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+34:16&version=NIV"][FONT="]Isaiah 34:16[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
Look in the scroll of the LORD and read: None of these will be missing, not one will lack her mate. For it is his mouth that has given the order, and his Spirit will gather them together.
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+48:16&version=NIV"][FONT="]Isaiah 48:16[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
“Come near me and listen to this: “From the first announcement I have not spoken in secret; at the time it happens, I am there.” And now the Sovereign LORD has sent me, endowed with his Spirit.
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Zechariah+7:12&version=NIV"][FONT="]Zechariah 7:12[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
They made their hearts as hard as flint and would not listen to the law or to the words that the LORD Almighty had sent by his Spirit through the earlier prophets. So the LORD Almighty was very angry.
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8:11&version=NIV"][FONT="]Romans 8:11[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians+2:10&version=NIV"][FONT="]1 Corinthians 2:10[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians+1:22&version=NIV"][FONT="]2 Corinthians 1:22[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.[/FONT][FONT="]
[/FONT][FONT="]
[/FONT][FONT="]
[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+3:5&version=NIV"][FONT="]Galatians 3:5[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
So again I ask, does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your believing what you heard?[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][FONT="]
[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+2:22&version=NIV"][FONT="]Ephesians 2:22[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.[/FONT][FONT="]
[/FONT][FONT="]
[/FONT][FONT="]
[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+3:16&version=NIV"][FONT="]Ephesians 3:16[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being,
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+3:3&version=NIV"][FONT="]Philippians 3:3[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
For it is we who are the circumcision, we who serve God by his Spirit, who boast in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh—
[/FONT][FONT="]

[/FONT][URL="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20John+4:13&version=NIV"][FONT="]1 John 4:13[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/URL][FONT="]
This is how we know that we live in him and he in us: He has given us of his Spirit.
[/FONT][FONT="]


[/FONT]

Unless a person is introduced to these concepts early in their education into scripture, it may be difficult for some to assimilate them for what they teach.

I was a defender of the trinity long, long time ago.

God cleared that up for me with the truths in I Timothy 2:5,

God is God

men are men

the one mediator between God and men is "the man Christ Jesus"

It couldn't be said more plainly or clearly.

 

[jamie]

So could you be so kind as to answer my latest question?

So the Rock was using a simile, big deal.