Paul plainly teaches that ministers ought to be compensated.
And
10% was what God willed toward the upkeep of the Jewish temple. Or in other words, 10% of all economical assets were to go to the faith.
Give me biblical support for Christmas.
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Paul plainly teaches that ministers ought to be compensated.
And
10% was what God willed toward the upkeep of the Jewish temple. Or in other words, 10% of all economical assets were to go to the faith.
Lol...I was being sarcastic on that point as that is a standard response I get from Christians regarding anything from the Old Testament which for them they claim doesn't matter...made null and void by their misinterpretation of....Paul I guess?
This whole Christmas thingy makes me laugh as Christians don't keep what is required of them-Sabbath yet insist and defend that which is not only NOT asked for but forbidden them-Christmas...
Sabbath is for Jews is the standard response...
The church has worked very hard to distance itself from the church in the wilderness...
And Jews have only been all too helpful...
Never mind there is no longer jews or Gentiles in Him...no Christmas ham either...lol
Just His people Israel...
Yup Jeremiah makes that very point...doesn't even specify it is to worship but just bring it in...decorate it and nail it down...lol...and that is what pagans do
with qualifiers you ignore
Willful sin will indeed separate you...you think LORD LORD! Is enough?
all men don't let go of willful sin...(it is a blast ya know)...to accept the free gift...why you test Him?
Ya gotta let go of your carnal stuff to accept His gift...
keypurr
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I really do wish folks would just read the scriptures.
Jeremiah 10:1-5 KJV
(1) Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
(2) Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
(3) For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
(4) They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
(5) They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
(1) Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
(2) Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
(3) For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
(4) They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
(5) They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
I ain't afraid of no do nothing, say nothing, know nothing fir tree, because that's all it is to me ---- a do nothing fir tree.
Quit being afraid of a do nothing fir tree, it can't hurt you.
See it as the Spirit sees it, a do nothing fir tree that has no power, instead of viewing it with carnal eyes as the pagan's did.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
looks like we're all good as long as we don't fasten it with nails and with hammers :idunno:
Mickiel
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This verse is not a command to tithe. Come now, you have to give us more. This is a serious debate , not a one meaningless verse show. Notice;
http://www.letusreason.org/doct54.htm
Summary: This site shows that the new Testament Church NEVER required tithing, NEVER commanded it, never received instructions from Christ to Tithe , or from the Apostles. Oh the church was not against giving, but it was against giving based on compulsion to give , or commandments to give , or giving from fear of a so called "Curse" ,all of which many churches now use as tactics. To try and intimidate the people to give 10% of their incomes.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
I would get into the bit about what "cutteth" means, but folks are gonna believe what they want to. But cutteth is tied in with covenant.
They have a covenant with the made idol because they think that hunk of wood can actually do something as their god.
And the word "workmen" isn't talking about just swinging an axe as a lumberjack. They are skilled craftsmen/carpenters/engravers/masons.
Is 44:12 uses the same Hebrew words translated with workman as "smith" and axe as "tongs".
I mean, come on folks, we have Israel cutting down trees and covering those hunks of wood with silver and gold for the temple and it's furniture.
Why do you assume that all Christians believe that they are obligated to tithe?
Mickiel
New member
Tithing is a hoax, an old covenant practice that was eliminated.
Notice;
https://thetithinghoax.wordpress.com/
Summary ; A stunning website , done by a Black woman no less. She gets into how many churches have made God out to be a "Mafia Boss " when it comes to members giving their money. Using fear tactics and lies to force the believers to give. A well done site with videos as well.
Notice;
https://thetithinghoax.wordpress.com/
Summary ; A stunning website , done by a Black woman no less. She gets into how many churches have made God out to be a "Mafia Boss " when it comes to members giving their money. Using fear tactics and lies to force the believers to give. A well done site with videos as well.
No.
Mickiel
New member
Perhaps you should start an anti-tithing crusade.
Yes it is.
Jesus is saying that they did pay tithes, but were neglecting other things they should have been doing as well.
Jesus tells them that they should be doing both (paying tithes and not neglecting the other things they should have been doing).
None of scripture is meaningless.
I see where part of your problem lies.
You ignore it, as you do many scriptures.
So he can argue with more phantoms.
Hey maybe he's one o' them reformers!