Foundation.

[popsthebuilder]

So, you two can either imagine Paul is saying he's the worst sinner, or he used to be the worst sinner, but you should look at the next verse where he explains he is the "FIRST" of a pattern to them who would come thereafter believing unto eternal life.

1 Timothy 1:14-16KJV

And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.​

I don't deny any of what he says. My emphasis on the subject of St. Paul and Christ at this time is their utter humility that nearly everyone seems unwilling to even admit.

This is a sad day indeed.

peace

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[God's Truth]

I find it fairly peculiar that nearly none will answer simple questions asked them.



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I think you resort to untruths.

 

[popsthebuilder]

I was given no command today.

A what? zoom zoom

Nah.

No. I went to the bureau.

Lol

Thanks

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[God's Truth]

I don't deny any of what he says. My emphasis on the subject of St. Paul and Christ at this time is their utter humility that nearly everyone seems unwilling to even admit.

This is a sad day indeed.

peace

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Why you want to ignore the scriptures is a sad day for you.

Believe what is written and don't be embarrassed or ashamed of it just because you think you know better.

Lean not on your own understanding...

 

[God's Truth]

GT, this is your frequently using phrase:



It is not so good practice or witnessing being so quickly offended as a Christian.

just saying.

You put down Apostle Paul so I really don't care much about your judgments.

 

[God's Truth]

Do you think those things count as obeying God? Those all apply to obeying the civil authority and it's laws.

The New Testament says we are to obey the civil laws.

 

[meshak]

Paul was and still is a good teacher.
The problem was, Paul was dealing with dunderheads like many of us here on TOL are.

It is clear that you and Paul don't agree because you say Jesus is God but Paul did not. He called Jesus' Father "God" and Jesus is "Lord".

 

[Eagles Wings]

When I lived in Sicily we ate burro on toast.

Did you eat it while in a wheelbarrow?

 

[steko]

It is clear that you and Paul don't agree because you say Jesus is God but Paul did not. He called Jesus' Father "God" and Jesus is "Lord".

Rom 9:5 To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.

 

[glorydaz]

The New Testament says we are to obey the civil laws.

The Holy Spirit doesn't tell me to stop at stop signs...not does He tell me not to lie about my age....nor does He tell me not to murder or steal or shoot up heroin. He knows what it means to be a new creature....unlike you and those others who look to themselves for salvation.

Do you have any other great words of wisdom you think you need to convey over and over again, world without end, Amen?

 

[steko]

Did you eat it while in a wheelbarrow?

"Desmond has a barrow in the market place
Molly is the singer in a band..."

 

[God's Truth]

The Holy Spirit doesn't tell me to stop at stop signs...not does He tell me not to lie about my age....nor does He tell me not to murder or steal or shoot up heroin. He knows what it means to be a new creature....unlike you and those others who look to themselves for salvation.

Do you have any other great words of wisdom you think you need to convey over and over again, world without end, Amen?

If the Holy Spirit doesn't have to tell us anything, then what are all those do this' and do thats' in the Bible?

 

[meshak]

Rom 9:5 To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.

That's strange,

This is what I found:

Romans 9:5New King James Version (NKJV)

5 of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.

It is not the same as yours. And it is not addressing Jesus is God.

 

[God's Truth]

That's strange,

This is what I found:

Romans 9:5New King James Version (NKJV)

5 of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.

It is not the same as yours. And it is not addressing Jesus is God.

Christ means God.

There is nothing wrong with calling the Christ 'God'.

 

[glorydaz]

If the Holy Spirit doesn't have to tell us anything, then what are all those do this' and do thats' in the Bible?

Which side of the cross are you talking about? Your law side or my grace side?

 

[steko]

That's strange,

This is what I found:

Romans 9:5New King James Version (NKJV)

5 of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.

It is not the same as yours. And it is not addressing Jesus is God.

Yes, it is.

"Who is over all, God blessed for ever (ho on epi pantōn theos eulogētos). A clear statement of the deity of Christ following the remark about his humanity. This is the natural and the obvious way of punctuating the sentence."- Greek scholar A.T. Robertson- "Robertson's Word Pictures"

 

[glorydaz]

That's strange,

This is what I found:

Romans 9:5New King James Version (NKJV)

5 of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.

It is not the same as yours. And it is not addressing Jesus is God.

See? You can't even see it when it's sitting right in front of your face. That is blind, indeed.

 

[God's Truth]

Which side of the cross are you talking about? Your law side or my grace side?

In the letters from Paul.

 

[steko]

Christ means God.

There is nothing wrong with calling the Christ 'God'.

Well... I would welcome your support concerning Christ's deity, but we've been over this before....Christ/Christos/Mashiach/Messiah does not mean GOD...it means 'anointed'.

 

[God's Truth]

Well... I would welcome your support concerning Christ's deity, but we've been over this before....Christ/Christos/Mashiach/Messiah does not mean GOD...it means 'anointed'.

Who is Christ in 1 Corinthians 10:9?

That scripture does not say any of the words you just said.