Who is ours? Do you have a monkey on your shoulder?
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Who is ours? Do you have a monkey on your shoulder?
Both feet would be preferable.
heir
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Those who do not approve things that are excellent are the ones being divisive (not to mention and offence Philippians 1:9-10 KJV).
heir
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Our faith stands in the power of God not the wisdom of men (like yours does).
1 Corinthians 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
heir
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Wrong again! Correct your stinking thinking!
Galatians 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
Galatians 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
It's you who is trying to divide Christ Jesus.
Christ Jesus cannot be divided no matter how hard you keep trying.
The Apostle Paul said the following re: himself
(Gal 1:23) ...“The man who formerly persecuted us is now preaching the faith he once tried to destroy.”
Paul's own words tells us that Paul preached what he once tried to destroy.
You claim Paul preached a different gospel.
musterion
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Show where any apostle before Paul preached the Cross as God's good news for Jews and Gentiles alike.
Explain Paul's own words:
(Gal 1:23) ...“The man who formerly persecuted us is now preaching the faith he once tried to destroy.”
You claim that what Paul once tried to destroy was a different gospel than what Paul preached.
That's not what Paul says in Gal 1:23
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Now read what you wrote and explain, if you can. [really, i don't care if you can or not]
Arsenios
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Actually, he received healing from Ananias for his blindness,
and he also received from him the Holy Spirit
as Scripture records...
Arsenios
musterion
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Show where the Cross was preached as good news before Paul preached it as good news.
heir
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You said Paul received the gospel by Ananias, but he didn't! He received it by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Galatians 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
Galatians 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
And "that gospel" (Galatians 2:2 KJV) is:
1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
1 Corinthians 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1 Corinthians 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
But fool as you are, you resist the truth.
As expected, you can't explain the verse.
(Gal 1:23) ...“The man who formerly persecuted us is now preaching the faith he once tried to destroy.”
Paul's own words above, proves your MAD wrong.
Which is why you can't explain the verse.
MAD is a mess.
musterion
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Please show where someone prior to Paul preached the Cross itself not only as good news for man but as the power of God unto salvation.
What do you want explained ? That within the already established Christian faith, Paul was a chosen vessel to receive brand new instruction and revelation, straight from Christ Jesus ?
For the Record, Peter preached the cross
(1 Peter 2:24) “He himself bore our sins” in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; “by his wounds you have been healed.”
As we see above, Peter preached the same thing Paul preached re: the cross.
(1 Peter 2:24) “He himself bore our sins” in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; “by his wounds you have been healed.”
As we see above, Peter preached the same thing Paul preached re: the cross.
(Gal 1:23) ...“The man who formerly persecuted us is now preaching the faith he once tried to destroy.”
Paul's own words completely destroys MAD.
Arsenios
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Christ Himself preached it:
Matt 10:38
And he that taketh not his cross,
and followeth after me,
is not worthy of me.
Matt 16:24
Then said Jesus unto his disciples,
If any man will come after me,
let him deny himself,
and take up his cross,
and follow me.
The cross has been preached as a part of the Gospel of Christ from the time of Christ to the present... Paul also preached the Cross... Repenting itself is a cross each of us must take up, so that even John the Baptist preached the Cross when he proclaimed: "Be ye repenting, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!" Good news indeed! The Gospel of Christ from the lips of the Forerunner of Christ: John the Baptizer of Christ in the Jordan!
But no one has answered Tet's point, that Paul himself tells us that he was preaching the same Gospel which he once was attacking...
Gal 1:23
The one persecuting us before,
is now preaching the Faith
which once he was destroying
[my very literal translation]
These are Paul's words...
WHICH Faith is Paul preaching?
The SAME Faith which once he was attacking...
It is hard to kick against the pricks...
No one can answer Tet...
You can only attack his person...
What is written cannot be unwritten...
Arsenios
musterion
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When did Peter write that: before his meeting Paul, or after?
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