That is certainly the narrative being promoted by those who stand to gain big bucks by promoting that narrative.
Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines
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So forcing is not ok, but mandates are ok? Forcing businesses to have mandates is ok?
I've shown you otherwise without a syllable of refutation from you. All you can do is repeat your stupidity.
Want to know why I call you a lair. This post is a perfect example. You KNOW you're wrong. Your KNOW what you're saying is false.
YOU ARE A LIAR!!!!
There is no such data.
There are NO "serious problems" with these vaccines.
A fact that you have been repeatedly shown to be true and yet you persist in repeating nonsense that you know is false.
YOU ARE A LIAR!!!
Thank you Captain Obvious!
No surprise that you'd stoop to this kind of nonsense. You're nothing but a lying buffoon.
You are certifiably insane!
There is NOTHING but DECADES of absolutely undeniable proof that the flu vaccines have saved literally millions of lives all over the world!!!
All you have to do is make an actual argument you lying moron!
Do you even know how to make an argument? I haven't seen you make one yet! You're obviously great at making unsubstantiated claims!!
On the contrary. As I've shown you at least twice now already. They have done double blind, placebo controlled studies that absolutely prove exactly that.
A point that you cannot rationally deny having known when you wrote this!
YOU ARE A LIAR!!!
This is definitely not true, liar.
You have already done things today that are far more dangerous than taking these vaccines.
You're a delusional liar.
This is because, in addition to being a liar, you are incapable of properly assessing risk.
No one on this thread has said a single syllable contrary to this. Who are you arguing with now, the boogy-man under your bed?
This has nothing to do with what I said. Try reading the post before responding please.
No one got a covid shot because of any vaccine passport until something less than a month ago.
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that is not clete
,rule 1 clete is never wrong ,if he is see rule 1
Conspiracy theory nonsense that you have exactly zero evidence for and that is, in fact, contrary to any actual scientific evidence that you can cite.
I didn't say that.
No, it's definitely not okay.
It's also entirely irrelevant to whether the vaccines are safe and effective and the fact remains that there has been no such mandate that "prevents people from doing business in New York" as was the claim.
The point being that if you are forced to bring up irrelevancies and over state things in order to bolster your case, then you're building your case on wet sand.
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I was going to say something funny, but in the end, you are correct.Correction: you can't do ANYTHING about the first two.
Lon
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This took me awhile to appreciate. I was under the 'assumption' that it didn't stop the disease, just made it milder. The media and doctors could have done a better job: it really does keep it from being transmitted in most cases. I was fully unaware of that when I got the vaccine. I took it for two reasons: 1) my daughter cannot taste or smell for 8 months now. I figured I'd at least not have to deal with that. 2) I was hounded by a friend. I'm in pretty good health, but just to keep my good friend from bugging me (echoes of Luke 11).
To be fair, though there are about 20 years of mRNA testing in mice, we don't know of long-term affects to date, in people. I wholly empathize with anyone concerned over this shot.
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You should be ashamed of yourself for judging me like that. I have posted info that you do not like and cannot refute. Someone posted this and you either did not see it or did not believe it. Don't call me a liar for believing credible reports you reject for whatever reason.
Pfizer vaccine recipients seven times more likely to get symptomatic Delta than recoverers (people with “natural immunity”) - Israeli data (Guardian, 8/27/21)
It is assumed that medicines are as effective as their promoters claim, but that may not be entirely accurate. We cannot possibly know a medicine alone kept someone from getting an illness as long as there are millions who did not get the medicine and did not get the illness. Flu vaccines are also not without histories of complications.
In searching the year 2011 on the CDC Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System website–(http://vaers.hhs.gov/index)– it was found that 51 deaths were caused by the flu vaccines, along with 232 life-threatening events, 116 permanent disabilities, 739 hospitalizations, 109 prolonged hospitalizations, 4,039 ER visits, and 6,221 “not serious” reports. According to the National Vaccine Information Center, fewer than one percent of all adverse vaccine reactions are ever reported. If this is true, you can add two zeroes to any of other above figures to be closer to actual numbers. Nice odds, huh?
Flu shots kill and maim. As stated above, 30 percent of flu vaccinations come with adverse reactions, and about six percent of all adverse reactions bring with them serious health events, including death. What the CDC neglects to tell you is that in five recent studies, people who did get the 2008-2009 flu shot were more likely to get the swine flu than those who did not take the poke. Also, with the flu vaccine came three times more risk of hospitalization in children. Source: American Thoracic Society, May 2009.
There is no denying the fact that there are millions of unvaccinated people who have not gotten covid. It is also undeniable that there are thousands who have gotten the shot who have gotten covid, and some of them have died. There seems to be no explanation for why you refuse to incorporate those facts into your stubborn narratives.