KingdomRose
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What has that got to do with what I said?
excellent example of MADism:
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What has that got to do with what I said?
That new order was written in the NT by Him HIS teaching and LIFE...and then signed and sealed by HIM His blood His death...so do as was done by Him...Loving AS HE LOVED...fulfills the Law...duh...no Sunday ham was ever offered by Him in His love btw...
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KingdomRose
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Being complete toward Christ would certainly have to do with his ultimate salvation. He must remain as complete as possible right up to the end. He said more than once that Christians had to REMAIN in God's good graces and not get turned aside.
"He has now reconciled you in his fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him [God] holy and blameless and beyond reproach, IF indeed you CONTINUE in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and NOT MOVED AWAY from the hope of the gospel that you have heard..." (Colossians 1:22,23, NASB)
"In the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have FALLEN AWAY, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put him to open shame." (Hebrews 6:4-6, NASB)
A warning to all of his co-ruling peers that they had better not turn away or they will be dead. They all were "saved" up to that point. They all had been "partakers of the Holy Spirit." But they had to REMAIN within the parameters of the Word of God.
I do pay attention and notice neither are in the NT...come much later...outside of scripture...
Living as He did doesn't include Sunday Ham...see?
KingdomRose
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The Spirit moves through the world and binds & loosens as God's Providence ordains.
You're either pushed by the Spirit, or imbued with the Spirit.
John Calvin is wrong! I just posted a quote from the apostle Paul that shows that people can fall away who had "tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit." (Heb.6:4-6) That does not indicate in any way that those who would fall away "had a slight and passing taste of the knowledge of Christ." No--these people had been partakers of the Holy Spirit! And tasted the powers of the age to come. They were in deep, no "passing taste." John Calvin preached his own flawed ideas.
KingdomRose
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There aren't two gospels. Who are you listening to? You might find some better friends. There is ONE Gospel, and that is the Gospel of the Kingdom. Christ's sacrifice and the benefits to mankind are included in that Kingdom message.
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Who is advocating Sunday and Ham?
KingdomRose
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Oh that is priceless! No more Kingdom gospel. What happened to Daniel 2:44 & Isaiah 9:6,7 & Revelation 20:6 and a slew of other passages about the Kingdom coming? You have said that most of the Bible is invalid by tossing out the Kingdom!
Lots of Christians this ain't all about you silly...
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The two of us were debating.
You debate me then discuss what I posted and not what someone else believes.
KingdomRose
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The Kingdom is still to come, as the Lord's Prayer hasn't been fulfilled yet---"thy Kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven." (Matt.6:9) It hasn't arrived yet, so the Kingdom Gospel is still very much alive.
Since Jesus sacrificed his human life for us, and he took the place of all of the animal sacrifices, there is no need for another Temple. The true Temple is in heaven, not made by men (Hebrews 8:1,2). No third Temple will be built in Israel. Israel was established long ago, and Jesus said that because that nation rejected him their house would be abandoned to them and the Kingdom would be given to a nation producing its fruit. (Matt.21:43; Matt.23:37,38) The "Israel of God" is now the Christian congregation. (I Peter 2:9,10) But you are right---the Kingdom is still to come.
Yup...thanks...
Someone was saying the gospel of the kingdom ended or whatever and now the other gospel continues or something...
Was referring to the idea that Jesuit Zionists love their temples...thus need a continuance of this "kingdom gospel to the Jews"
But yes HalleluYah His will be done on earth as it is in Heaven...
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NEITHER Jew NOR Greek.... that is NOT "Gentiles becoming Jews".
Again, this does NOT turn gentiles into Jews.
Gee, you're confused.Gee, it's even stated in the parts of the Bible you read (or rather, not read :chuckle
Typical nonsense.
Lol...Gentiles into Jews how laughable really...
But citizens of Israel yes? Following the way of that church in the wilderness yes? Inheriting what is meant for them yes? Becoming more like Him His way as He lived and loved ...just as yes?
Becoming Jewish...lol
Changing your story. Nice.
You missed the argument of others, as usual-"repent of sins" to be justified.
Pay attention.
Oh. Tell me something that I do not know. Please teach me...Please?
More babbling-quite irrelevant to the issue at hand.
No such thing as "luck," as the LORD God is in control. Only the heathen, talk like that. You talk like them. Oh, yes...."dat."
More irrelevant spam.
Sit.
More psycho babble, IMO......
For the babes/sheep, to protect them from this moron...
"Traditional" Christianity has it backward, since they refuse to rightly divide this word of truth. After being justified by being baptized into Christ, and being new creatures in Christ, with eternal life, having been raised, ascended, and seated in heavenly places in Christ Jesus(up), "religion" wants to "bury" you(down) you under the element of water , which, as part of the earth, is under a curse, by being dunked until the tadpoles know your social security number.
Water baptism, throughout the OT/NT, was never viewed as "Death/Burial/ & Resurrection."
Baptism - changing the condition, identity, of something because of an action that was performed.; placing or putting something into another substance and performing an action so that it will change the state of the item from its previous condition-it's condition, status, or identity is changed!
Baptism- the idea of being placed into something (the Lord Jesus Christ's death in this dispensation), and an action is performed, so that when we come out we are changed from our previous condition. It is all about our identification; God takes what we are in Adam and places us into the Lord Jesus Christ, and God's action (crucifying the old man) changes our condition- now we are" in Christ." We are no longer what we were in Adam, because God has done something to us and in us. Our previous condition has been changed because of what God has done:
" Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead." Colossians 2:12
Buried with Him-not like Him.
" Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: {6} Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin." Romans 6:3-6
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Again:Baptism- 'to change the nature, identity, condition, status, and to IDENTIFY something with its purpose.. For example, Homer, in his book "The Odyssey", desribes the tempering of a sword. When the hot metal was plunged into water, the sword was "baptized" , and thus the change in the condition of the sword was from soft to hard metal. As another example, when a piece of cloth was placed into a dye vat for coloring, there was a change in the condition of the piece of cloth upon emergence from the vat-it had a new color.
Where is the water?
" But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able. And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father. " Mt. 20:22,23
"And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father. And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized with shall ye be baptized". Mk 10:38,39
"And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized:" Luke 12:50
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People assume baptism means "water". I can show you other passages where there is no water. There was no water on the cross. The basic idea is IDENTIFICATION for the purpose of change in condition/identity/status. Did you know that in biblical times, to dye a piece of cloth, you would "baptize" it, "overwhelm" it, "cover" it, in a vat of dye. The cloth would now have a "change in condition", a new "identity". The element was dye here. Look at:
Again..
"And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea...." 1 Cor. 10:2
They were identified with Moses. Also note Exodus 14:16, 22="dry ground", Exodus 14:29,15:19="dry land". No water! The Egyptians were wet, not the Israelites.
The basic idea behind the concept of baptism is identification=placing or putting something into another substance, performing an action, with the resulting purpose of a change in the state of the item from its previous condition=change in identity, change in condition, change in status.
Symbol? No one was buried in water. The Lord Jesus Christ was not buried in a liquid grave, but in rocks, and buried when dead. In contrast, the "dry baptismal" candidate is buried as soon as he has received life!
Made up assertion, humanism. No, demon, you argue that this fake "Jesus" of yours only died for the sins you stop doing/repent of, which is a contradiction in terms, and the scripture says just the opposite, of your satanic assertion, moron, as He died for all of our sins, while we were yet sinners, died for the ungodly, unrepentant, miserable sinners, and justifies those same ungodly, unrepentant sinners, idiot.
And the Acts passage has NADA to do with repenting of your sins, you devil child, as you have been shown, for over 2 years-but your daddy devil tells you to keep spamming that passage.