excellent example of MADism:

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Quite irrelevant to your argument, moron.
You cannot produce one scripture, that shows that the 12, including Judas, ever preached the good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, prior to the dbr occurring. The dbr was hid from them, the foundation of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, while they were preaching the gospel of the kingdom, for almost 3 years. the gospel/good news of the kingdom, moron, is not equivalent to the gospel/good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV.

Of course, you are too stupid to grasp that, even though you've been shown this, for 2 years, Lamont.


Not one peep.

You're correct, Sonny.

 

[john w]

Lol...kinda like Noah built the ark before the floods came...he was mocked for it too

You now mock you have the ark so no flood is coming...

More irrelevancy, create a moving target....
Romans 4 KJV

But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Romans 5 KJV

6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

Romans 5 KJV
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.


You: Not in the bible...

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Jesus came to earth and taught the New Covenant rules and regulations, then he shed his blood on the cross for the New Covenant. Paul says he is a minister of that one and only New Covenant.

Don't think we don't appreciate your amazing ignorance.

 

[john w]

Matthew 15:19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts--murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.

Romans 5 KJV
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Read it, Lamont: while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Well, Jesus said we have to endure to the end (Matt.24:13), so I would have to say that I am saved SO FAR. That's all anybody can say.

First of all, Jesus was preaching "The Kingdom Gospel" to The House of Israel. Secondly, you don't understand the Scriptures nor how to "Rightly Divide" them, because, you belong to the "Jehovah Witness Cult."

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Romans 5 KJV
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Read it, Lamont: while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Amen!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

He justifies the sinner who comes to him to have their sins washed away.

If you are still sinning then they are in your heart.

Matthew 15:9 For out of the heart come evil thoughts--murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.

Well, then you're saying, "Christ didn't actually die for ALL my sins."

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Paul compares the salvation he preached to the one Moses preached when he led all the people to the desert.

1 Corinthians 10:1 King James Version (KJV)

10 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;

4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.

6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.


Did you read that? They ate the same meat and drink that was Christ.

That means we all have to believe and obey AS THAT has ALWAYS been the Way, no matter what God says for us to do.

They were our example!!!

Whether God gave one command not to eat from a certain tree, or whether He told the people to circumcise and offer animals---we have to obey God, and never ever did God make some kind of completely different gospel where He says we no longer have to obey anything but to only believe.

You're not gonna be MY Sunday School Teacher.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I agree! lol

That makes sense that, you'd agree with something that isn't Biblical.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

What is it going to hurt you to believe there is one gospel, one good news, one message that saves?

Is the part that bothers you most is that you will have to search and find out exactly what you should obeying?

Is it so hurtful to you if you preach to others to believe and repent of their sins and call on Jesus to save them?

There's only one Gospel TODAY, and that is "The Grace Gospel." However, two thousand years ago, there were two Gospels being preached: The Kingdom Gospel to the House of Israel and The Grace Gospel to the Gentiles.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Today, both Jew and Gentile abide by The Grace Gospel that the Ascended Lord Jesus Christ gave to The Apostle Paul.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Anyone, including Jews and Gentiles, can become part of "The Body of Christ" (The Church) by simply hearing the Grace Gospel and placing ALL of their faith in Christ as their Savior, and not Christ, plus themselves or anything else.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

We're now living, in what The Apostle Paul called, "The Dispensation of the Grace of God."

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Good works/deeds, going to church regularly, getting water baptized, etc, will not save anyone.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

All "True Believers" will stand before Christ and be judged for the works they did while in the flesh. A certain amount of things we did will be, in essence, burned away and the works that Christ deems worthy will be rewarded. The unbelievers will stand before, God the Father and be judged by their works and cast into The Lake of Fire for eternity. Two judgments will be taking place.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I rest my case, for now.

 

[meshak]

Yes, I know it's a life-long process, but I figured it would be useless to go any more than surface deep on that remark.

Yes:up:

So no one should say "I am saved".

 

[john w]

Yes:up:

So no one should say "I am saved".

Was Paul saved? Name anyone, in the history of mankind, who was saved, and your evidence.


Droid mess-hack won't touch that. Good day to you, sir.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Yes:up:

So no one should say "I am saved".

Except, those that are.

 

[Crucible]

Pretty sure either martyrdom or priesthood are the only sure ways to know one is saved.

Otherwise it just becomes redundant to the believer- you may as well throw salvation in a stocking alongside the other knickknacks.