Eliminating Dispensationalism

[Jacob]

Have you ever been curious why they didn't?

Shalom.

Maybe.

Shalom.

Jacob

 

[musterion]

Are you a dispensationalist?

Yes.

I do not know who your "we" is.

Any dispie reading our exchange.

 

[musterion]

Shalom.

Maybe.

Shalom.

Jacob

Clearly, someone in some ministerial capacity in your life as a dispie failed to tell you the saving Good News. There's a couple possible reasons for that. But it's crystal clear you never heard it, even though you spent time with people who SHOULD have known it.

 

[Jacob]

It more than predates Darby. He's been shown that dozens of times but doesn't care because he's thoroughly dishonest.

Shalom.

I had a Ryrie study Bible. Not Scofield.

Shalom.

Jacob

 

[musterion]

I will tell you this much before I sign off...

Believe it or not, your problem isn't really with dispensationalism at all. There's something else wrong here. Something you should have nailed down long ago, one way or the other.

 

[john w]

Thus, the Law of Moses is no longer in place.

Made up:

Romans 3:20 KJV Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Romans 7 KJV
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.


Craigie: Man cannot know what sin is, to lead them to Christ.



Galatians 3:24 KJV Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.


Craigie-No law-abolished...Therefore, the lost cannot come to Christ.


And he lied about that:

The law serves to bring the lost to Christ.

Craigie: Everyone is saved-no law to condemn anyone, sin not imputed, per ...



1 John 3:4 KJV Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Romans 4:15 KJV Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

Romans 5:13 KJV (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.



Craigie the clown-this is what results from "man made" invention of Preterism.


Right, sweetie?

 

[musterion]

Shalom.

I had a Ryrie study Bible. Not Scofield.

Shalom.

Jacob

I mean, predating Darby by many hundreds of years.

Besides the fact that Paul taught it, that is.

 

[Jacob]

Yes.



Any dispie reading our exchange.

Shalom.

Okay. I hope that you will understand and change your view, or not have one, if you are persuaded. But I am not trying to persuade you. The point is that I recognize that you can change and that you are not locked into what you are thinking, maybe not even ever. When you say "we" you include others with you, which makes things extremely more difficult for you.

Shalom.

Jacob

 

[Jacob]

Clearly, someone in some ministerial capacity in your life as a dispie failed to tell you the saving Good News. There's a couple possible reasons for that. But it's crystal clear you never heard it, even though you spent time with people who SHOULD have known it.

Shalom.

I may have heard the gospel somewhere, including at church, or my parents.

Shalom.

Jacob

 

[Jacob]

I will tell you this much before I sign off...

Believe it or not, your problem isn't really with dispensationalism at all. There's something else wrong here. Something you should have nailed down long ago, one way or the other.

Shalom.

I do not know what it is. I do not know what you are thinking.

Shalom.

Jacob

 

[musterion]

Steko sometimes works night shift, maybe he'll talk to you. I got a long day ahead of me tomorrow.

 

[Jacob]

I mean, predating Darby by many hundreds of years.

Besides the fact that Paul taught it, that is.

Shalom.

I do not know what you are talking about. Do you believe that the Law is not, but one day will be again?

Shalom.

Jacob

 

[Jacob]

Steko sometimes works night shift, maybe he'll talk to you. I got a long day ahead of me tomorrow.

Shalom.

Recently I have only been posting during the day.

Shalom.

Jacob

 

[tetelestai]

How many death knells can something have?? You'd think one would do it.

There are thousands when it comes to Dispensationalism.

Yet, you still make a conscious choice to be a Darby Follower.

 

[tetelestai]

It more than predates Darby. He's been shown that dozens of times but doesn't care because he's thoroughly dishonest.

You live in denial mysteryboy.

Dispensationalism didn't exist before Darby invented it in 1830.

 

[tetelestai]

I will tell you this much before I sign off...

Believe it or not, your problem isn't really with dispensationalism at all. There's something else wrong here. Something you should have nailed down long ago, one way or the other.

Why don't you Darby Followers try explaining Matt 5 to him. That's his issue with Dispensationalism.

 

[tetelestai]

Besides the fact that Paul taught it, that is.

Paul NEVER taught what John Nelson Darby invented in 1830.

Neither did anyone in all of Christendom from Paul till 1830.

 

[Jacob]

Shalom.

Yes. However, I was not asking for that. And, I also do not believe in a seven year tribulation, or accompanying rapture.

Shalom.

Jacob

 

[beameup]

So, that is why you believe the law of Moses is still in place (every jot and tittle)?.

If you reject Grace then, by default, you place yourself under the Law and its curse.
Those who resist the Holy Spirit and reject Salvation, are under the curse of the Law.
Christ fulfilled the Law, so only by placing your faith in Christ can you be freed from condemnation.
Read Galatians

 

[beameup]

Shalom.

Yes. However, I was not asking for that. And, I also do not believe in a seven year tribulation, or accompanying rapture.

Shalom.

Jacob

What is "the Day of the Lord"?
What is "the Time of Jacob's Trouble"?