Does Luke 19:44 disprove Preterism?

tetelestai

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Working fine, according to the inspiration of God.

That question wasn't for you, it was for the very confused Darby Follower GM.

GM likes to throw around 1 Peter 3:15, yet at the same time adheres to Dispensationalism, which teaches GM that 1 Peter 3:15 isn't for him.

GM needs to go back to Dispensationalism 101.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Ha! ha! Tet is out of sorts at this time. Alcazar the great invented Preterism. Tets
religion. He was a Jesuit Priest for the Catholic church. By proxy, Tet is a Catholic
follower.
 

musterion

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So Spanky, if only the authors of Scripture were infallible (insofar as they were inspired), why do you lift the man-made system of preterism to the level of infallibility?
 

tetelestai

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why do you lift the man-made system of preterism to the level of infallibility?


If it lines up perfectly with scripture, than it's a validation of the infallible scripture.

If it's contrary to scripture, then it's man-made.

Jesus said not one stone would be left standing upon another, and that's exactly what happened in 70AD.

This can be verified from secular literature from every century since 70AD.

Yet, you deny it because it causes a problem for your man-made system.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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If it lines up perfectly with scripture, than it's a validation of the infallible scripture.

If it's contrary to scripture, then it's man-made.

Jesus said not one stone would be left standing upon another, and that's exactly what happened in 70AD.

This can be verified from secular literature from every century since 70AD.

Yet, you deny it because it causes a problem for your man-made system.

Your misinterpretations are aided by your mentor, a dead Jesuit Priest
named Luis De Alcazar.
 

musterion

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If it lines up perfectly with scripture, than it's a validation of the infallible scripture.

So by extension, such a system would itself be infallible by virtue of its perfect alignment with infallible Scripture.

Is that what you believe regarding preterism?
 

tetelestai

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Because a Catholic priest named Luis De Alcazar made it all up!

All you're doing is showing how immature and foolish you are.


"When, then, we see what was of old foretold for the nations fulfilled in our own day, and when the lamentation and wailing that was predicted for the Jews, and the burning of the Temple and its utter desolation, can also be seen even now to have occurred according to the prediction, surely we must also agree that the King who was prophesied, the Christ of God, has come, since the signs of His coming have been shewn in each instance I have treated to have been clearly fulfilled." - Eusebius of CaesareaDemonstratio Evangelica; Book VIII
 

lifeisgood

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The fact that I quoted numerous Preterists teachings from Eusebius from over a thousand years before Alcazar was born, shows you either aren't very bright, or you're just acting out your denial in a childish manner.

Oh, c'mon Tet.

Do you have any scrolls or papyri from immediately after 70AD giving the minute details of such an INCREDIBLY AWESOME momentous event transpiring as the second coming of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in clouds of glory? It would be mind boggling to be able to read first hand accounts from MANY, many, many people, even if simple scribbles on pieces of pottery or animal skins or papyri.

Can you imagine yourself seeing such an INCREDIBLY AWESOME event and keeping your mouth/hand shut?

'Cause were EVERYONE (as you assert) who saw Jesus Christ second coming as the Roman Army taken up in 70AD back with Him, right? And that's why there's no first hand accounts of such a MOMENTOUS event, right?

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Just in case you ask.
Taken from John w well-documented responses from tetelestai:
"Tet is a preterist that believes Christ already returned in 70 AD via the Roman Army."-Tambora, on another TOL thread

Tet: "Correct, and thanks for making it clear that it was the Roman army that was His return."
Tet: "The Roman army destroyed Jerusalem in 70AD. That is what Jesus meant when He said He will return."
Tet: "Jesus never physically returned, and never will physically return to planet earth after He ascended to Heaven"
Tet: “And that is what happened. The Lord came in a way that everyone could see Him. However, He never touched planet earth, and when this event was over, He then sat on the throne in Heaven NOT on planet earth.”
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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All you're doing is showing how immature and foolish you are.


"When, then, we see what was of old foretold for the nations fulfilled in our own day, and when the lamentation and wailing that was predicted for the Jews, and the burning of the Temple and its utter desolation, can also be seen even now to have occurred according to the prediction, surely we must also agree that the King who was prophesied, the Christ of God, has come, since the signs of His coming have been shewn in each instance I have treated to have been clearly fulfilled." - Eusebius of CaesareaDemonstratio Evangelica; Book VIII

I learned that from you. You mention Darby hundreds of times. What's
good for the goose is good for the gander Tet. Luis De Alcazar
 

lifeisgood

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That question wasn't for you, it was for the very confused Darby Follower GM.

GM likes to throw around 1 Peter 3:15, yet at the same time adheres to Dispensationalism, which teaches GM that 1 Peter 3:15 isn't for him.

GM needs to go back to Dispensationalism 101.

So, are you saying that you don't follow 1 Peter 3:15 as a Preterist?
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Tet molded his entire belief system on the words of a Jesuit Priest
of the Catholic church. This Priest lived hundreds of years ago. Tet
must be a Catholic? Sounds like one to me.
 
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