1)However, the tree of life you refer to is based on faith.
The latest research shows Darwins tree is collapsing.
2) Yes... an evolutionist who acknowledged that mutations and natural selection can not create. She attempted *( like Gould did) to find a creative mechanism.
3) Most evolutionists do not wish to even admit or allow discussion that complex sophisticated design may be evidence of an Intelligent creator.
4) If you can show a code that self created, let us know; otherwise it is illogical and faith based only, to deny a intelligent code maker may have created the DNA code.
5) So, you agree that the bias ( faith based) of evolutionism has lead to the false conclusions I mentioned, as well as others?
6) Exactly!! So the nazis thought they would speed along the evolution process by helping out natural selection. They eliminated people they deemed unfit. The Holocaust is largely a result of Darwinism.
7)
*God's Word.
*The fossil record
*Sexuality
*The universe
*Morality
*History / Archaeology
*Our moon
*Love
8) At that point then you start to dig and find out just who the Creator is.
9) There are many ways... For example logic tells us that something which has existed uncaused, throughout eternity, caused everything. We can then take the statements from scripture and find a possible answer to the cause...an uncaused eternal God.
10) Next, we can take that scripture and look to see if there is evidence of divinely authorship. We can then compare that testimony comparing it to all other explanations eliminating those which are inconsistent with evidence....and eliminating statements which are self contradictory.*
11) The eye witness testimony of the One who was there is the Creator God. We do witness Him through His Word, and through the world around us.*
12) "For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God."Rom. *1:20
1) Not at all. I see that you have quite some misconceptions, so bear with me as I try to explain them one by one:
- Don't limit all of evolutionary biology to just the work of Darwin. He may have been the "godfather" but you don't see mechanics being limited to Newton, or algebra limited to Gauss, right?
- Don't project the fragility of religious dogma unto scientific consensus. A theory is not dismissed because someone doubts one aspect of it. You always need evidence! Then a theory can be corrected.
- In this particular case: Doolittle stated that possibly there's not a SINGLE tree of life with ONE origin! That statement is very different from your generalization that the entire concept should be flawed.
Likewise when Lynn contested the sole responsibility of mutation in biodiversity, this was very different from your conclusion that she somehow "disproved" natural selection
- You seem to be convinced that evolution is treated differently in the scientific community than everything else, that it is an exception to the scientific method. I wonder how come?
2) Exactly, attempted but so far without success. As I've already said, this is the lifeblood of scientific progress. Can't wait until someone plugs that gap of knowledge
3) pay attention to 2 things:
First, science is open to any explanation, even involving a deity, but you need actual proof. As long as people just assert some ID without any testable, repeatable evidence, then it's little wonder they are being ignored by science.
Second, be honest: ID = god of the bible, otherwise your argument is just as valid for any other deity or, perhaps, aliens.
4) Well, you just answered your own question - it's DNA!
5) No the bias of ego, not faith.
6) I always wonder what it is that you call "darwinism", maybe you should explain!
Precisely, the nazis deemed people who didn't satisfy their ideal as unworthy - where is natural selection here at work?
7) Maybe you're unaware that evidence and personal incredulity aren't quite the same thing. Listing some random stuff isn't helping your case at all. Show me actual evidence, you know, an experimental setup that demonstrates reliably divine interference.
8) so how did you do it?
9) I'm sorry, but where is the logic? You just played some amateur philosophical word games.
10) Please explain, I didn't understand a word.
11) So......... now finally I'm beginning to see the logical contortion.
The "eye witness" you all are talking about is the deity himself.
Too bad this doesn't work in the real world, I would love to prove to my bank that there's a million bucks missing from my account because I am myself the eye witness of the lottery transferring that money... Ha-ha-ha
12) Hey, now this explains why you theists are so convinced that nature itself is proof of your god. Too bad this is utterly useless. The same argument can be made for every fairy ever conceived.
I can really recommend that you practice a bit of thinking without assuming that you already have all the answers, especially if your answers are all just one answer to everything that explains nothing.
Cheers!
