Creation vs. Evolution

[Daniel1611]

It changed by evolving. Same as whales evolved from land mammals to aquatic ones. All one has to look is at the bone structure in their

But how does it evolve? How does it not just stay the same? What makes it actually evolve?

 

[seehigh]

But how does it evolve? How does it not just stay the same? What makes it actually evolve?

For a quick primer read this.

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_16

 

[Daniel1611]

For a quick primer read this.

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_16

Just post an article you probably skimmed? Nice.

 

[seehigh]

Just post an article you probably skimmed? Nice.

It is short and easy to understand. Even for those who do not have a scientific background, but you apparently don't. How much more detail you would be able to cognitively acquire depends on what your understanding of the subject matter. At this point in time I can only assume by what you have written and shown that your understanding is it best at an elementary level.

 

[Daniel1611]

It is short and easy to understand. Even for those who do not have a scientific background, but you apparently don't. How much more detail you would be able to cognitively acquire depends on what your understanding of the subject matter. At this point in time I can only assume by what you have written and shown that your understanding is it best at an elementary level.

I used to be into evolution. I read all about that pseudo science cult.

 

[seehigh]

I used to be into evolution. I read all about that pseudo science cult.

Perhaps you may have been into evolution, but what did you understand about it? What processes were you aware of that impact evolutionary development?

 

[Daniel1611]

Perhaps you may have been into evolution, but what did you understand about it? What processes were you aware of that impact evolutionary development?

Enough that I figured out it was a stupid idea. It isn't a valid alternative theory. It is stupid. I have about as much desire to read more about evolution as I do to read about how the moon is made of green cheese. I wasted enough of my life reading that evolution garbage.

 

[seehigh]

Enough that I figured out it was a stupid idea. It isn't a valid alternative theory. It is stupid. I have about as much desire to read more about evolution as I do to read about how the moon is made of green cheese. I wasted enough if my life reading that evolution garbage.

Name two evolutionary processes that you feel are not valid. I'm trying to get an understanding if you even know any such processes beyond natural selection.

 

[Daniel1611]

Name two evolutionary processes that you feel are not valid. I'm trying to get an understanding if you even know any such processes beyond natural selection.

Natural selection. Not a valid process for speciation.

Genetic mutations. Not a valid process for speciation.

 

[seehigh]

Natural selection. Not a valid process for speciation.

Genetic mutations. Not a valid process for speciation.

Assertion made.

Please explain why you feel that?

 

[Daniel1611]

Assertion made.

Please explain why you feel that?

There is no empirical evidence. That is the biggest reason.

Further, why is it that the green beetle example is almost always the example I get? I remember hearing it in school and if you Google search evolution, you get this example. To prove speciation, they use an example that is not speciation. Why not show an example?

Also, where are all the beneficial mutations that have been observed?

 

[seehigh]

There is no empirical evidence. That is the biggest reason.

Further, why is it that the green beetle example is almost always the example I get? I remember hearing it in school and if you Google search evolution, you get this example. To prove speciation, they use an example that is not speciation. Why not show an example?

Also, where are all the beneficial mutations that have been observed?

There is overwhelming empirical evidence for various evolutionary processes. And they are replicable and testable.

Gene flow is the basis for GMOs. Certainty is an evolutionary process that is used again and again, in real time and the results can be seen measured and tested.

 

[Daniel1611]

There is overwhelming empirical evidence for various evolutionary processes. And they are replicable and testable.

Gene flow is the basis for GMOs. Certainty is an evolutionary process that is used again and again, in real time and the results can be seen measured and tested.

Yay. You observed variation within a species. These are not evidence for speciation.

 

[seehigh]

Yay. You observed variation within a species. These are not evidence for speciation.

You still haven't explained the snake with feet fossil.

 

[Daniel1611]

You still haven't explained the snake with feet fossil.

So it's a snake with feet? So still a snake. Not a different species.

 

[seehigh]

So was it a reptile before, was it an amphibian before, or is it migrating to be either one now.

 

[Daniel1611]

So was it a reptile before, was it an amphibian before, or is it migrating to be either one now.

It was a snake. Why would I assume it changed into a different species?

 

[noguru]

Yay. You observed variation within a species. These are not evidence for speciation.

And we are suppose to just take your word for this?

 

[noguru]

It was a snake. Why would I assume it changed into a different species?

You don't have to think about anything. Your opinion on the matter is rather irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Daniel1611]

And we are just suppose to take your word for this?

I assert that no one has observed speciation. Instead of showing me observed speciation, he shows me variation within a species. If speciation has been observed, prove it! You know that no one has ever observed speciation. Why would I listen to some fools that say it happens but have no proof.