Could Hugh Hefner & Donald Trump Be Homosexual?

[MrDante]

Then rather it's the desire to restrain our sexual impulses the social construction here... not the natural instinct itself.

Exactly

 

[glassjester]

Before you go on about social constructs you should probably learn what they are first.

Abusing Foucault

Alright, I read it.

Your point?

 

[quip]

There is a natural drive to have sex.

Our decisions about who ought to help us satisfy that desire - that's a choice.

Sure, it's a choice for both heteros and homos.

And the ridiculous idea that someone can be only capable of sexual attraction toward their own gender - that's completely a cultural phenomenon, and a fairly recent one, too.

No, homosexuality's (per se) ancient but you're making a tight qualifying remark there ("only capable") which is debatable but at the same time irrelevant. That being said...the political move toward equality is a relatively new phenomenon.

 

[glassjester]

Sure, it's a choice for both heteros and homos.

Of course.

No, homosexuality's (per se) ancient but you're making a tight qualifying remark there ("only capable") which is debatable but at the same time irrelevant. That being said...the political move toward equality is a relatively new phenomenon.

Homosexual activity is ancient, sure. But not the idea of a fixed or innate orientation.

 

[Arthur Brain]

oh artie :doh:

http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...Criminalized&p=4872092&viewfull=1#post4872092

If you're potentially capable of the latter then you're speaking for yourself, and nobody else.

 

[Arthur Brain]

There is a natural drive to have sex.

Our decisions about who ought to help us satisfy that desire - that's a choice.

And the ridiculous idea that someone can be only capable of sexual attraction toward their own gender - that's completely a cultural phenomenon, and a fairly recent one, too.

As ridiculous as the idea that people can only be attracted to the opposite sex?

:think:

 

[quip]

Homosexual activity is ancient, sure. But not the idea of a fixed or innate orientation.

That debate is beyond my pay grade...but ancient behavior lends more than a little credence to the claim, at least at the logically inductive level.

 

[ok doser]

If you're potentially capable of the latter...

i'm potentially capable of murder, theft, adultery..



but i have no doubt that i am not a murderer, a thief, an adulterer

 

[Arthur Brain]

This is so reminiscent of evolution-deniers constantly demanding more transitional fossils.

Careful dude, that kinda talk ain't gonna go over well here. Surely you know the earth is 6000-10000 years old right?

 

[Arthur Brain]

i'm potentially capable of murder, theft, adultery..



but i have no doubt that i am not a murderer, a theif, an adulterer

So when you say 'everyone' is potentially capable of homosexuality and child molestation then that's everyone else besides you is it?

:AMR:

 

[quip]

So when you say 'everyone' is potentially capable of homosexuality and child molestation then that's everyone else besides you is it?

:AMR:

Dozer has a "default setting" ...pay attention Art! :chuckle:

 

[ok doser]

So when you say 'everyone' is potentially capable of homosexuality and child molestation then that's everyone else besides you is it?

:AMR:

oh no :doh:


you started drinking early tonight, dint you?

 

[ok doser]

Dozer has a "default setting" ...pay attention Art! :chuckle:

we all are born normal, the way God made us

 

[glassjester]

As ridiculous as the idea that people can only be attracted to the opposite sex?

:think:

Yes.

Hefner, remember?

 

[quip]

we all are born normal, the way God made us

God = default button.

 

[Arthur Brain]

oh no :doh:


you started drinking early tonight, dint you?

It's your quote so instead of trolling, how about just explaining how 'everyone' somehow doesn't apply to you?

Else I can say with assurance that I'm straight and blokes and kids are a complete no-no.

 

[ok doser]

Yes.

Hefner, remember?

i don't think he does

he appears to be in a haze tonight

 

[Arthur Brain]

Yes.

Hefner, remember?

So you think everyone is more or less bi-sexual?

 

[ok doser]

It's your quote so instead of trolling, how about just explaining how 'everyone' somehow doesn't apply to you?

it's your strawman - you have fun playing with it by yourself

I can say with assurance that I'm straight and blokes and kids are a complete no-no.

it's nice that you believe that - it means you haven't given yourself over to total depravity yet :thumb:

 

[Arthur Brain]

Dozer has a "default setting" ...pay attention Art! :chuckle:

Yeah, boring troll would seem to be it...