It was, which is why he tried it. His hedonistic lifestyle, allowed for it, youre starting to learn.
Could Hugh Hefner & Donald Trump Be Homosexual?
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It was, which is why he tried it. His hedonistic lifestyle, allowed for it, youre starting to learn.
Arthur Brain
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There's only one I'd consider eating, as the other is a no no.
Arthur Brain
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And then rejected it, continued and continues to live a hedonistic lifestyle and exclusively with women. Doesn't help your argument at all.
con·sid·er
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verb
verb: consider; 3rd person present: considers; past tense: considered; past participle: considered; gerund or present participle: considering
think carefully about (something), typically before making a decision.
In other words before choosing, yay, we are getting somewhere.
Sure it did, him who obviously loves women, was willing to try deviant sexual behavior, what do you think hedonism means?
Arthur Brain
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Well, he must have had some attraction going on at the time sure, although it certainly didn't last and more a fumbling experiment by the sounds of it. There's no doubting which way his breads been buttered for the last five decades is there?
Arthur Brain
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Heck Angel, I would have thought that you consider his whole sexual life to be deviant?
Youve already outed yourself, first you claim ANY attraction is a by birth thing, then we said we bet hugh being a sex freak and all, most likely tried gay sex at some point, you objected, since he loves women so much, till it was proven to you, that he did INDEED try it (because of his hedonism that YOU mentioned too) then went right back to women, like prisoners often do.
Congrats you learned, its A CHOICE. Anyone can wake up one day and decide to try something, just like hugh did, and depending on what they feed themselves (porn, worldliness, hedonism, etc.. ) is more or less likely to try and go with something deviant.
I hope you enjoyed todays lesson, it was brought to you by the letter C for CHOICE.
The hugh thing completely invalidates your claim that can choose to be attracted to something else.
Have a nice day!
Arthur Brain
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Wow. Way to prune a post and go all 'dictionary' on me there Angel. Now maybe if you addressed a post instead of getting all semantic we could get somewhere. I don't need to make a 'deep decision where it comes between a foodstuff I detest and one I can palate.
Are you going to pull apart any other figure of speech in common usage in posts or are you going to address content? Lemme know so I can "consider" what to do next...
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Arthur Brain
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Um, no. I didn't claim that any attraction is a 'by birth thing' so that's a strike.
If you want to believe that you choose what you're attracted to then you just have at it Angel. If hedonism and porn breeds homosexuality then even Hefner disproves the theory if you were to think about it some more. Considering most people have sought porn at some point in their lives then the argument that a hedonistic lifestyle leads to such just falls apart. It doesn't turn someone gay and if it did then there'd either be a lot more homosexuals in the world or those that are are simply the way they are, no choice involved.
Have a nice day yourself.
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Lon
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Sure it is. This is literally like trying to say a person cannot control their sexual impulses. It just isn't true. I was A-sexual, by choice, and conveniently, by birth. It DIDN'T mean I couldn't one day choose hetero- I was 'sexual' (hetero) by choice, after that. Why? Not just for hedonistic impulses or uncontrolled 'instincts.' Such is literally dumbing us down to animals without brains to control us (a bit of proof available for further discussion on this point). Anybody saying anything different is selling what simply isn't reasonable, logical, or tenable. Imho? There is no one born a bigamist, or adulterous, or etc. Is it a solid opinion? One with data and well-reasoned logic behind it? I think it is. Until this last generation, we all knew controlling your passions and urges for the good of self and society was a good and noble thing that it was completely possible, and more, valued/virtuous/good.
Arthur Brain
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Arthur Brain
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Why do you identify as heterosexual? Sexual identity isn't determined by the act of sex otherwise you might as well argue that everyone's 'non sexual' unless they're engaging in the act...
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In the founding states, the penalty for sodomy was castration. What people don't realize is that it was really 'left for dead'- if you strung a man up and castrated him it is likely that he would simply die.
It's funny how we went from that to the bogus claim that homosexuality is no different than any other sin, or with some people, that it isn't even sinful
It's funny how we went from that to the bogus claim that homosexuality is no different than any other sin, or with some people, that it isn't even sinful
ok doser
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because i'm not a pervert :duh:
Lon
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Nor vise versa. My point is that we are volitional thinking beings, not mindless animals. I think you agree, thus I truly believe it contains the whole answer of your query. I genuinely believe we are volitional beings 'unless' we allow passion, drive, whatever else (instinct?) to guide us. Logically, Spiritually, as human beings, we exercise mind over matter and impulse. We used to see any lack as mentally problematic. Such psychological observations have never been redacted, just bait 'n' switched, obscured. It is STILL virtuous to stifle passions.
Arthur Brain
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But apparently you could "choose" to be attracted to men, so you kinda are by your own "logic".
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ok doser
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i could choose to murder, but that doesn't make me "kinda" a murderer
and you keep referring to my "logic" without having any understanding of what I'm taking about