Christians worship Christ; JW's do not!

[God's Truth]

Hey, GT, how can anybody EARN a 'Rep-power' of zero? How did you accomplish that?

By speaking the truth.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

By speaking the truth.

Keep telling yourself: "There's nothing wrong with being DELUSIONAL."

 

[God's Truth]

If you were to leave TOL and never come back, the place would be smarter for it. Know what I mean?

I don't believe you. I think you missed me.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Until you are saved, you'll fall for every fly-by-night charlaton that comes along. :nono:

Thanks peanut gallery.

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[Apple7]

You ant I both know that word begotten is an addition; and yes; name 1 thing that is born without having a start please

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The Second Person of The Trinity.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Lol.....that's what I thought.

The Second Person of The Trinity.

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[Apple7]

Oh; I forget that you think GOD is with change as opposed to man who was given with the gift of freedom and ability to repent. GOD turning from what HE showed would happen due to the repentance of man is not actually GOD changing. To posit that it is is to go even further down the hole and assume that GOD is not all knowing.

Not the best footing friend.

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Talk to scripture.

 

[Apple7]

Do we not also see subordinate nature in verses telling us GOD is the head of Christ and Christ is the head of the body of faithful believers?



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Yawn...Christ is God to begin with.

 

[Apple7]

Nonsense.

Context in no way refutes my point; unless you think we are literally in past times now.

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Talk to scripture if you have confidence enough to rebut me.

Otherwise why slavishly reply....?

 

[Apple7]

Jesus' bodies were created.

No.

The incarnation verbs never state that The Son was ever created.

You and pops cannot demonstrate otherwise....you just keep barking like a pesky chihuahua...:dog:

 

[Apple7]

All the same Spirit friend.

No sense in calling the One Spirit three people or persons as the Spirit is causal of all persons and existence and too HIS Word and manifestations

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More conjecture.

 

[Apple7]

No; the scripture plainly says that Jesus is the first born over all creation AND THEN EVERYTHING was created THROUGH him.

You don't even make sense. Who said anything about a hymn being sung to a mortal?

You don't even know what word is even rendered as 'first born' to begin with.

You are too afraid to look.

Got any NEW material?

 

[popsthebuilder]

Talk to scripture.

Show scripture saying GOD changes.

Malachi 3: 5. And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts. 6. For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Romans 1: 23. And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.



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[popsthebuilder]

Yawn...Christ is God to begin with.

So you ignore scripture then!?

Christ is GOD, But that doesn't mean the man Jesus is co-eternal with the FATHER.

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[popsthebuilder]

More conjecture.

Oh?

So how many spirits does your god have?

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[Apple7]

Greetings again Apple7, I am not sure what two words you are referring to. If you are referring to “ha-Elohim” and “Elohim” as two different words, then I cannot agree with you as it is the same word “Elohim”.

These are the two words that you have been arguing over for the past two weeks, and it is just know that you are officially recognizing them?

Come on, Trev...

Check ANY lexicon, and it will show you the difference between the two words.

Its really not that hard, Trev....and it takes your own personal bias out of the equation...of which, is so very painful for you to do...

If you are referring to the normal word for Judge and the use of Elohim for the Judges that represented God in Exodus 21:6 and Exodus 22:8-9, then this is governed by the context and gives a range of meaning to the Hebrew language.

Since when has context ever mattered to you, Trev?

Its little wonder that you love and trust the English Trinitarian KJV rendering so much, as it renders 'judges' in these locations for you.

But...then again....you completely IGNORE the 363 other locations of haelohim in which the KJV renders as God!

Desperate much, Trev...?

 

[JudgeRightly]

Show scripture saying GOD changes.

Malachi 3: 5. And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts. 6. For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Romans 1: 23. And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

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Consider the verses provided by Will Duffey in these two videos that show God changing:

https://youtu.be/JCNPmLIOnDg

https://youtu.be/XDA-_SP3J9Y

 

[Apple7]

The writer to the Hebrews is endorsing the translation “Angels”, whether or not the same is contained in the LXX.

All you need to is look at the LXX for your answer.

Its not that hard to do, Trev...

Unfortunately for you your interpretation disagreed with both the LXX and the translation provided by the writer to the Hebrews.

Any serious student of scripture always consults the original to see if the translation is correct.

I have repeatedly shown the original Hebrew, complete with exegesis, and you blatantly dismissed it out of hand.

When are you going to get serious?

The LXX translation as a whole is not inspired as it has many errors, but the letter to the Hebrews and Hebrews 2:7 is inspired.

Now...this is precious....

The LXX has 'errors' - but, that doesn't keep you from using it when it buttresses your polemic!

This is what muslims do with the Holy Bible, too!

I guess cultic minds think alike...

 

[Apple7]

Show scripture saying GOD changes.

Malachi 3: 5. And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts. 6. For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Romans 1: 23. And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.



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And...?

 

[Apple7]

So you ignore scripture then!?

Christ is GOD, But that doesn't mean the man Jesus is co-eternal with the FATHER.

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Talk to scripture....if you can...from your smartphone, that is...