TracerBullet
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The Nazi's targeted many minorities
Christian Man Fired From $60K Job for Sharing 'Audacity' Film With Lesbian Co-Workers
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The Nazi's targeted many minorities
Some people make me uncomfortable too, thats not enough reason in itself.
One more time, under the law, he has a right to talk about his faith with others, untill the person in question tells them they are not interested, then and ONLY then if he persists (with that same person) after being told no, THEN its a problem.
There was a step ignored here. Thats the problem.
shagster01
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He was talking about their sexual orientation, not his religion
Hello, their orientation is against God, its part of his religion, which he has a right to talk about. He didn't harress them or break the law.
There is no such thing as a right not to be "uncomfortable" .
shagster01
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He talked about his religion all the time for 4 years. He said so himself. He was not fired for that, nor was it a problem. It became a problem when he was disrespectful enough to drag his coworkers personal lives into the conversation and make them uncomfortable. And the business in Ohio has every right to terminate him if he is no longer a good fit at the company.
Of course it wasnt a problem, its not against the law to do so. (it was 14 years, not 4)
The first part, no, read the law on it yourself that ive posted more than once, he could talk about it all the time with them if he wanted to, till THEY (the person he was talking to) told him no, and THEN he persisted, which isnt what happened.
Each individual, should be saying no not interested, they skipped that step. The law is clear about it.
He will win this one, if its as stated in the op.
The bolded part, yes, they could have done that, but they didnt, thats going to cost them.
He slandered many who were not bisexual, and killed them.
kiwimacahau
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Only in your opinion. Further he did indeed harass these folk. Frankly he deserved what he got.
Your post made me uncomfortable, therefore you are harrassing me. :chuckle:
TracerBullet
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Facts usually do make you uncomfortable
shagster01
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He converted 4 years ago according to your op.
So the company must give him a warning for each employee and not one that just covers everyone? They told him it would not be tolerated as it makes people uncomfortable, she did not volunteer for the conversation. No law broken by the employer.
The company cant give him a warning just for sharing his faith, thats illegal and discrimination, thats what you arent getting, UNLESS the person has told him to stop, and he doesnt stop with that person.
This is about 2 different lesbians, each one complained, without telling him to stop - and then him having continued.
Thats what you arent getting, if he said it to one, and she said stop, then he continued (with the same one), then he would be guilty, but he witnessed to a DIFFERENT person, you cant say because this one doesnt like it, therefore you cant discuss your faith with any of them.
They skipped the step where the individual said stop, then then he didnt with THEM.
TracerBullet
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the lengths some people will go to to justify sick behavior.
If a man sexually harasses a woman he works with and she goes to her boss to complain and he is warned by his employer there Apparently it is just fine for this man to go and sexually harass another co-worker because he is now harassing a DIFFERENT woman.
Jose Fly
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Yes they can, if it's disruptive and/or makes other employees uncomfortable. Like all other freedoms, this one comes with limits and isn't universal. For example, you can't walk around your office with a bullhorn shouting "THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH!!!"
Read this: http://www.eeoc.gov/policy/docs/best_practices_religion.html
Employers should allow religious expression among employees to the same extent that they allow other types of personal expression that are not harassing or disruptive.
Once an employer is on notice that an employee objects to religious conduct that is directed at him or her, the employer should take steps to end the conduct because even conduct that the employer does not regard as abusive can become sufficiently severe or pervasive to affect the conditions of employment if allowed to persist in the face of the employee’s objection.
Employees who are the recipients of unwelcome religious conduct should inform the individual engaging in the conduct that they wish it to stop. If the conduct does not stop, employees should report it to their supervisor or other appropriate company official in accordance with the procedures established in the company’s anti-harassment policy.
Employees who do not wish to personally confront an individual who is directing unwelcome religious or anti-religious conduct towards them should report the conduct to their supervisor or other appropriate company official in accordance with the company’s anti-harassment policy.
Once an employer is on notice that an employee objects to religious conduct that is directed at him or her, the employer should take steps to end the conduct because even conduct that the employer does not regard as abusive can become sufficiently severe or pervasive to affect the conditions of employment if allowed to persist in the face of the employee’s objection.
Employees who are the recipients of unwelcome religious conduct should inform the individual engaging in the conduct that they wish it to stop. If the conduct does not stop, employees should report it to their supervisor or other appropriate company official in accordance with the procedures established in the company’s anti-harassment policy.
Employees who do not wish to personally confront an individual who is directing unwelcome religious or anti-religious conduct towards them should report the conduct to their supervisor or other appropriate company official in accordance with the company’s anti-harassment policy.
I thought these guys wanted shop owners and business keepers to do as they liked, what with all the baker kerfuffles and all that.
Sitamun
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I know, it's funny ain't it?
annabenedetti
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Agreed.
Interestingly, I read that he'd posted to facebook back in March that he'd left the job, long before the August date mentioned in the news articles.
Maybe at some point the company will release a statement.
No, but you are missing part of it, I think. Labeling something harassment is a judgment. What one person calls harassment someone else might be OK with. So no, if someone is disciplined for harassing someone then it's not OK for that person to go harass someone else, but it might be OK for that person to do the same action that was judged as harassment in the first situation because the next person might not judge it as being harassment.
Of course, some behavior is easy to identify and easy to ban outright. In sexual harassment that could be any/all physical contact. Verbal harassment is more subjective (though even some language is explicit enough to be banned). In the case of religion you might draw a line at distributing religious material, but conversation is more subjective. One lesbian might feel harassed by a comment and another lesbian just shrugs it off.