Capitol Police Warn Of Threat On March 4th

eider

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Heck, if Qanon believers controlled the UK then I'd be moving to Canada ASAP!
Anywhere.....
Iran would not look too uninviting. As long as you keep to OT law you are left alone in Iran. For instance, I have read that Jews survive better in Iran than in places like France!
 

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Ah yes, the immoderate left who won't listen.
Listen to what? To the patent lie that those on the left are in favour of infanticide (to cite just one example of the falsehoods in that absurd diagram)?

Let's be clear about something - the right in America has recently decided that lying is acceptable. And you guys lie and lie and lie.

And then you lie some more.

No doubt you will object that people on the left are more inclined to be in favour of infanticide in some very limited cases. Well, yes, that is probably true. But to imply, as that chart does, that those on the left are in favour of allowing babies to put to death for arbitrary reasons is a manifest falsehood. It's like me saying that guys on the right support murder just because you favour capital punishment. For me to take such a position would entail a massive distortion and over-simplification of the issue. And you would be right to object. Well, what is good for the goose.....

But again, the elephant in the room is this: it is demonstrably true that in 2021 America, those on the right have embraced lying to a much, much greater degree than those on the left.

And it is frankly exhausting keeping up with it.
 

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Listen to what? To the patent lie that those on the left are in favour of infanticide (to cite just one example of the falsehoods in that absurd diagram)?

Let's be clear about something - the right in America has recently decided that lying is acceptable. And you guys lie and lie and lie.

And then you lie some more.

No doubt you will object that people on the left are more inclined to be in favour of infanticide in some very limited cases. Well, yes, that is probably true. But to imply, as that chart does, that those on the left are in favour of allowing babies to put to death for arbitrary reasons is a manifest falsehood. It's like me saying that guys on the right support murder just because you favour capital punishment. For me to take such a position would entail a massive distortion and over-simplification of the issue. And you would be right to object. Well, what is good for the goose.....

But again, the elephant in the room is this: it is demonstrably true that in 2021 America, those on the right have embraced lying to a much, much greater degree than those on the left.

And it is frankly exhausting keeping up with it.
You are a fool. All politicians lie including reporters.
 

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No, not right wing, far right, the extreme.

Saying it doesn't make it so.

They most certainly are on that side of the spectrum as is recorded in academia and history.

Truth isn't determined by popularity.

You may be uncomfortable with it but that's where such ideals squarely lie.

Rather, you've grown too comfortable believing a lie.

As much as you might venerate Bob Enyart

I don't venerate Bob.

and his graph,

All three of those are his graphs (he made them).

He made them to be used as a tool for teaching people like yourself truth.

he ain't the 'gold standard' of anything either.

No one said he was.

The difference though is that He uses God's word as a foundation for his worldview (as do I and many others on here). THAT is the gold standard.

It's ridiculous, all ends up. A more myopic, subjectively biased and ignorant example would possibly be hard to find.

Appeal to ridicule. Appeal to the stone. Fallacies both.

The Nazis were far right. The neo Nazis are just the same and at least they're honest about it.

Repeating your position ad nauseum won't make it come true, no matter how many times you do it.

NAZI
National Socialist
Socialism is a left wing ideal.

Hitler was a left-wing Darwinist who advocated cradle-to-grave socialism.

There is extensive, carefully documented evidence from many primary sources and mainstream secondary historical sources that many of those running Nazi Germany, including Hitler, were homosexuals in the book, "The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party". Homosexuality is a leftist ideal.

Hitler was democratically elected. Democracy (while often touted as a right wing ideal) is a leftist ideal, which goes contrary to the natural top-to-bottom flow of authority.
 
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Apologies for the formatting there. This laptop is from the dark ages and it's why I don't bother to use the quote function much but just reply point by point to posts.
 

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So do plenty other people and it doesn't automatically make them right. Am I obliged to take the sentiments of Calvinists or Jehovah's Witnesses seriously just because they claim that their worldview is based on the Bible?

Neither will denying such suddenly make facts magically disappear. Nazism is far right. Neo Nazis are far right and as uncomfortable as that may be for you, it's still the truth. Same with the MAGA crowd etc.

Nope and you really should have thought that through a bit more. Here's some help.


"The Pink Swastika?!" Seriously? That's been debunked all over the place, on one of the parts of aCW's ten year train wreck where he used to tout the thing. Homosexuals were persecuted under the Nazi regime.

Fix your formatting.
 

eider

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I think he's referring to a book by Jonah Goldberg. Not gonna be high up on the 'to read' list...

Extremists move the facts hither and thither to comfort their bigotries, or so I believe. Thus, Hitler's politics could be cut out and taped beside Stalin's, and so forth. And in the morning they'll see it, and believe in it. That's ok so long as they never get to control anybody.

A better view is to tread the moderate democratic pathway, and all those with extremist view to right and left can be simply called 'extremists'! Extremism is very very dangerous.

Orwell got it right when he described the condition of double-think. My example could be...an 'Enforcer' could title himself an 'Enabler', and so on.

Extremism.......... let's just shun it.
 

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Extremists move the facts hither and thither to comfort their bigotries, or so I believe. Thus, Hitler's politics could be cut out and taped beside Stalin's, and so forth. And in the morning they'll see it, and believe in it. That's ok so long as they never get to control anybody.

A better view is to tread the moderate democratic pathway, and all those with extremist view to right and left can be simply called 'extremists'! Extremism is very very dangerous.

Orwell got it right when he described the condition of double-think. My example could be...an 'Enforcer' could title himself an 'Enabler', and so on.

Extremism.......... let's just shun it.
Jonah proves that universal health care is fascist. How about open borders? Nazi Germany had both.
 

eider

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Jonah proves that universal health care is fascist.
Who is Jonah?
Universal healthcare is fascist, eh??

'If you can't pay you can die' !!!! You could wear the T shirt.
A lovely ideal for you to cling to.

But I'll take the moderate way if you don't mind...... Health care for all.
How about open borders? Nazi Germany had both.
Having overrun surrounding countries I expect nazi Germany may have had open borders.

I expect your history education is rubbish, though.
 

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I'm replying again, point by point.

Denying the obvious hardly renders such false.

Just as well I've never claimed it was then.

Because you say so? Hardly.

Well, he should have done a better job then. It's chock full of laughable ignorance and highly subjective bias. That isn't truth and can be dismissed for what it is, absolute bunk.

So do plenty other people and it doesn't automatically make them right. Am I obliged to take the sentiments of Calvinists or Jehovah's Witnesses seriously just because they claim that their worldview is based on the Bible?

It deserves to be ridiculed because it's chock full of laughable ignorance and highly subjective bias.

Neither will denying such suddenly make facts magically disappear. Nazism is far right. Neo Nazis are far right and as uncomfortable as that may be for you, it's still the truth. Same with the MAGA crowd etc.

Nope and you really should have thought that through a bit more. Here's some help.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...-falsely-claiming-that-nazis-were-socialists/

"The Pink Swastika?!" Seriously? That's been debunked all over the place and isn't taken seriously in academic circles whatsoever. It was even torn apart on one of the parts of aCW's ten year train wreck where he used to tout the thing. Homosexuals were persecuted under the Nazi regime.

You made this post yesterday at 5:37 pm CST...

Only 8 minutes after you told me about your computer issues.

If you need help with formatting your posts, you can ask for help, and I can help you.

Or are you just being lazy?

Fix your formatting.
 
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