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CherubRam

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Bernie is a Communist. That would be OK if he was a Christian Communist. As far as I know Bernie has not explained how he is going to implement his government.
 

CherubRam

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First Christian Communist

Acts 2:45
They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need.

Acts 4:34
that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales

Acts 4:37
sold a field he owned and brought the money and put it at the apostles’ feet.

Acts 5:1
Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property.

Acts 5:4
Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.”
 

CherubRam

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Communist: A person who supports or believes in the principles of community. In theory, under communism, all means of production are owned in common, rather than by individuals.
 

CherubRam

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In the bible days people were given land by drawing lots. If you wanted someones land you could buy it, if they were to sell it. Communism does not mean people have no personal property.
 

CherubRam

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Acts 4:32
All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had.

John 17:11
I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.

John 17:22
I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one—
 

CherubRam

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Sanders joined the Young People's Socialist League in college, honeymooned in the Soviet Union, and spoke at a Sandinista government anniversary celebration in the 1980s. Bernie Sanders praised Fidel Castro in the 1950s for Cuba's universal health care and education systems.


OK, so no big deal. Reluctantly I will be voting for Hillary as the lessor of the other evils.
 

PureX

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Communist: A person who supports or believes in the principles of community. In theory, under communism, all means of production are owned in common, rather than by individuals.
Sanders has never espoused such a belief, and your claiming that he is a communist is then a lie.

It's a sin to bear false witness against your neighbor.
 

PureX

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Sanders joined the Young People's Socialist League in college, honeymooned in the Soviet Union, and spoke at a Sandinista government anniversary celebration in the 1980s. Bernie Sanders praised Fidel Castro in the 1950s for Cuba's universal health care and education systems.
Socialists are not communists. My friend Sam has also been to the Soviet Union and he is the most staunch republican I know. And not everything other governments do is wrong. Sometimes they get things right that we don't. And we can learn from them.

Sanders also marched with the civil rights protesters in the 60s. He also had the courage and insight to vote against the Iraq war when almost no one else in the Congress or the Senate, did. And even now, he is the only candidate in all of Washington willing to speak out about the corruption of government by the wealthy elite, through campaign financing, through paid bagmen called lobbyists, and through after-office patronage jobs. Every other candidate has taken the bribe money hand-over-fist and then stays silent about it.

OK, so no big deal. Reluctantly I will be voting for Hillary as the lessor of the other evils.
Vote for who you want, but keep in mind she is taking the bribe money just as fast as the big banks, oil companies, insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, and every other corporate conglomerate gives it to her. And if she's elected, they will demand their pound of her political flesh, in return. Just as they did her husband. And she will give it to them, just as her husband did.
 

Foxfire

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Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.

Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history.

Today in America, unions have a secure place in our industrial life. Only a handful of reactionaries harbor the ugly thought of breaking unions and depriving working men and women of the right to join the union of their choice. I have no use for those -- regardless of their political party -- who hold some vain and foolish dream of spinning the clock back to days when organized labor was huddled, almost as a hapless mass. Only a fool would try to deprive working men and women of the right to join the union of their choice.

These are all quotes from the US President who was responsible for what is clearly the largest and most successful socialist achievement of all time. One that literally lifted the country out of the mud and paved the way for the greatest economic up welling in history.

Socialism is an intrinsic and inseparable appurtenance to democracy. Without it there would be no police, fire fighters, roads or infrastructure of any kind.

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Oh! I forgot to mention that he was a Republican.
 

CherubRam

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Sanders has never espoused such a belief, and your claiming that he is a communist is then a lie.

It's a sin to bear false witness against your neighbor.

Can Communism exist without Socialism? Can Socialism exist without Communism? They seem to go hand in hand to me.
 

CherubRam

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Socialists are not communists. My friend Sam has also been to the Soviet Union and he is the most staunch republican I know. And not everything other governments do is wrong. Sometimes they get things right that we don't. And we can learn from them.

Sanders also marched with the civil rights protesters in the 60s. He also had the courage and insight to vote against the Iraq war when almost no one else in the Congress or the Senate, did. And even now, he is the only candidate in all of Washington willing to speak out about the corruption of government by the wealthy elite, through campaign financing, through paid bagmen called lobbyists, and through after-office patronage jobs. Every other candidate has taken the bribe money hand-over-fist and then stays silent about it.

Vote for who you want, but keep in mind she is taking the bribe money just as fast as the big banks, oil companies, insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, and every other corporate conglomerate gives it to her. And if she's elected, they will demand their pound of her political flesh, in return. Just as they did her husband. And she will give it to them, just as her husband did.

You make a good point PureX, but is America ready for Sanders (Communism / Socialism?)
 

CherubRam

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These are all quotes from the US President who was responsible for what is clearly the largest and most successful socialist achievement of all time. One that literally lifted the country out of the mud and paved the way for the greatest economic up welling in history.

Socialism is an intrinsic and inseparable appurtenance to democracy. Without it there would be no police, fire fighters, roads or infrastructure of any kind.

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Oh! I forgot to mention that he was a Republican.

When the Unions were the strongest in 1972, America also had the highest standard of living. Since Nixon and the Republicans broke the Union; by sending American jobs to China, the standard of living has declined.
 
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