Battle Talk ~ BR XI
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Who is the stooge now?
Theo uses the following principle as his basis for determining the validity of the death penalty... “For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more.”
I want SOOOOOOOOOOO bad to respond to that but I am afraid I would steal Turbo's thunder.
Personally I think Theo has dug himself an incredible hole using that principle for criminal justice.
I want SOOOOOOOOOOO bad to respond to that but I am afraid I would steal Turbo's thunder.
Personally I think Theo has dug himself an incredible hole using that principle for criminal justice.
People who obsess over God's justice are usually the ones that think they aren't in the crosshairs. When Christians completely abolish a sense of forgiveness and mercy towards those who are "sinners" then they have blindly forgotten what God has shown them to do all through the Bible. I'm rooting for Theo, mostly because everyone elses sense of bloodshed and violence has made me sick. We are told to love and try to seek the will of God, which is righteousness, but do we do these things? No. We hunt down the people who sin with electric chairs, nooses, and rocks.
"Personally I think Theo has dug himself an incredible hole using that principle for criminal justice." - Novice
Well I guess the Bible dug itself into a whole then. Or do we just like to pick and choose what we read in the Bible?
"Personally I think Theo has dug himself an incredible hole using that principle for criminal justice." - Novice
Well I guess the Bible dug itself into a whole then. Or do we just like to pick and choose what we read in the Bible?
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No, we learn how to "Rightly divide the Word of Truth". Pretty simple.Phantastes said:
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Who is the stooge now?
Not at all!Phantastes said:
Forgiveness is a key element in the Bible. But forgiveness must be done in a righteous way. Ignoring the context of God's commands is a painful blister that grieves God as we speak.
Can't wait for Turbo's response to the massive slippery slope Theo has groomed for himself.
Please repeat the questions you are responding to...
Please repeat the questions you are responding to...
I have a request of theo_victis.
Theo, please repeat Turbo's questions when you respond to them. Answers like this are not very helpful to the reader:
Thanks for considering this request.
-Bob Enyart
Please repeat the questions you are responding to...
I have a request of theo_victis.
Theo, please repeat Turbo's questions when you respond to them. Answers like this are not very helpful to the reader:
Theo-A-TurbosQ1: No. I do not agree. See my response to your interpretation of that passage.
TheoATurbosQ2: N/A
Theo-A-TurbosQ3: No, not any more. See Christ.
Sometimes an answer is so untenable, that showing the answer immediately following its question makes everyone cringe a bit. The answer should follow the question so we can all see, without having to go elsewhere to first find each question, whether or not the answer is even responsive.TheoATurbosQ2: N/A
Theo-A-TurbosQ3: No, not any more. See Christ.
Thanks for considering this request.
-Bob Enyart
:sibbie: You aren't in this BR! Stop answering his questions!Lucky said:Rather personal for an organized debate, no? :idunno:
That's like a whole other Battle Royale right there.
Too specific to the point of being off topic, IMO. This isn't "Should Americans support the current American DP system?"
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novice said:Not at all!
Forgiveness is a key element in the Bible. But forgiveness must be done in a righteous way. Ignoring the context of God's commands is a painful blister that grieves God as we speak.
Can't wait for Turbo's response to the massive slippery slope Theo has groomed for himself.
No one is ignoring context....other than Turbo...Did you READ theo's post???
What does it mean to forgive in a righteous way?
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Right. But the verse directly below that says, "surely there is a God who judges the earth." Hmm....that seems to imply that WE are not the judges--God is!
"The LORD will judge his people" --Deuteronomy 32:36
"For we know him who said, 'It is mine to avenge; I will repay,' and again, 'The Lord will judge his people.' " --Romans 10:30
"For the Lord will vindicate his people and have compassion on his servants." --Psalm 135:14
"Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: 'It is mine to avenge; I will repay,' says the Lord." --Romans 12:19
I guess the question I would have would be for Theo Victus's professor. If he would have allowed a forgiven Christian murderer, to teach Sunday school, and babysit his kids, would he allow a DP advocate, who is also a forgiven Christian, to teach Sunday school and babysit his kids.
I would like to hear how he would have answered that.
I think those who are against the DP on the basis of forgiveness that has been offered to us and the death penalties that we have all escaped should make this their first statement in defense of their position. "We extend forgiveness to all those who have executed, and or will execute anyone who has committed a murder." That should be their clarion call and stated up front in every debate. From their they could go forth and defend their position with integrity and equity. I would like the "professor" or Theo Victus to make such a "call" in fairness to their belief, and understanding of the nature of God's forgiveness.
I would like to hear how he would have answered that.
I think those who are against the DP on the basis of forgiveness that has been offered to us and the death penalties that we have all escaped should make this their first statement in defense of their position. "We extend forgiveness to all those who have executed, and or will execute anyone who has committed a murder." That should be their clarion call and stated up front in every debate. From their they could go forth and defend their position with integrity and equity. I would like the "professor" or Theo Victus to make such a "call" in fairness to their belief, and understanding of the nature of God's forgiveness.
jeremiah said:
What do you mean, "would he allow a DP advocate, who is also a forgiven Christian, to teach Sunday school and babysit his kids"? Why wouldn't he?
I would like to know what it would mean if he wouldn't allow that person to babysit and teach...
I would just like to note that your statement, "We extend forgiveness to all those who have executed, and or will execute anyone who has committed a murder," is dumb. It seems obvious from what Theo has written that he believes forgiveness is for EVERYONE (which would include the executors of...the execution--those who are actually responsible for the executions). I mean, if he believes the murderers should have forgiveness, why would the murderers' executioners be denied forgiveness? Everyone means everyone!
So, I think it would be silly to make a declaration of that fact twice.
Also, you used the wrong "their." Silly willy.
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